How do I identify this Stihl?

[SawTroll]

Studying pictures up front will help a lot with the ID, and remember that it could be just a 70cc+ saw, not necessarily a 90+/- one.....:msp_smile:

 

[homelitejim]

I'll stand by my statement on the use of torx on 045/056, but that applies to original screws. You got me cold on the 066 though I thought that modernized design in your pic came along with the 660. Would you supply a measurement of the width of the starter housing. My 064 is only an inch wide. Of course he won't need it if it looks like your saw, but the old 066 is very similar in appearance to the 064.

The early flat top 066 did not have a decomp but it wasn't long before they were put on. Yes the 066 is wider than the 064 and a pound or so heavier, I think your measurements are correct. Both my 045's have torx on the muffler, front handle bar, AV mounts, and cylinder, and standard pretty much everywhere else if I remember correctly. I do enjoy using my 045 Super as much as I use my 066 and have never really noticed any difference in weight, I will have to say the 045 Super sounds better than the 066.

 

[064AV]

Studying pictures up front will help a lot with the ID, and remember that it could be just a 70cc+ saw, not necessarily a 90+/- one.....:msp_smile:

Good call. I went to my sister's in the "city" to take care of a tree that fell in a storm, and her neighbor was in awe of the 460. I laughed cause I left the big saw at home. He had a silly little hardware store saw. Just a product of my environment, I guess It's hard to say what someone considers big.

 

[064AV]

Both my 045's have torx on the muffler, front handle bar, AV mounts, and cylinder, and standard pretty much everywhere else if I remember correctly. I do enjoy using my 045 Super as much as I use my 066 and have never really noticed any difference in weight, I will have to say the 045 Super sounds better than the 066.

That series of saws do have a pretty sound that's all their own I noticed the locations you list for torx on the 045/056, and in my experience they used Allen screws in many of those locations (especially the muffler). I'll emphasize the "in my experience" part cause it wouldn't be the first time I was mistaken, would it

 

[homelitejim]

That series of saws do have a pretty sound that's all their own I noticed the locations you list for torx on the 045/056, and in my experience they used Allen screws in many of those locations (especially the muffler). I'll emphasize the "in my experience" part cause it wouldn't be the first time I was mistaken, would it

Shoot you might be right, I do know my #27 is what I use to fish them out, now I am going to have to go out to my shop and clean a few out to make sure.:msp_smile:

 

[homelitejim]

My 045 Super I know is all original, Here is a pic of the muffler, without taking the saw apart I can say that most of the hardware is standard and only the muffler and cylinder are torx.

The 045AV on the other hand I am sure is pieced together as there is torx every where and it is the older of the two saws. I am sure most of the hardware has been replaced at some time.

 

[SawTroll]

My 045 Super I know is all original, Here is a pic of the muffler, without taking the saw apart I can say that most of the hardware is standard and only the muffler and cylinder are torx.

The 045AV on the other hand I am sure is pieced together as there is torx every where and it is the older of the two saws. I am sure most of the hardware has been replaced at some time.

It doesn't matter much anyway, as long as you have a fitting driver for all of them. :msp_smile:

 

[064AV]

Just measured the starter housing on a 1996 066 Magnum, and it is even wider than I thought. It is just over 1 1/2 inches wide (046 and 064 are about an inch wide) . I apologize for not including pics. They'd make it easier to explain the differences, but I haven't figured out how to do so with my phone ( it is my sole internet access) You should let us know what you find out when you look at the saw

 

[fearofpavement]

Now we're making progress....

Just got this info from the seller:

Molded into the plastic is the number 1122z9 1001a

Other numbers are
pa66
Oregon EQ
240XXXD025
Engine YA8XS.0925RA
M.D. 0007
Type 066
Displacement 92cc
24"bar
On top it says 311Y

So we know for sure it is in the 066 Family and based on the cc marking and "type 066" I think it is an 066 as the seller "thought" it was.

Now, can anyone look at any of those numbers and know whether this is an early model or the more MS660 ish looking one?

Thanks again guys for all your help with this process.

 

[064AV]

For what it's worth, here is a pic of my old 066. I wouldn't worry about obsolescence with any 066/660. If this works, then I figured out how to include a pic

 

[fearofpavement]

I talked to the owner today and he said it does have a compression release.
So how "rough" would this saw have to be to be worth less than the $350 he is asking? Assuming it cuts good. He said I could try it out on some big wood. It has a 24" bar.

 

[diggers_dad]

Take the air filter cover off and there will be a 11xx number on the back side match it to this list it will narrow it down for you. You can find the 11xx number on most of the parts on the saw. The number will be molded into the plactic same color a little small to read but it will be there.

1106 090
1107 07
1108 08 S
1109 090 G
1110 041
1111 051, 075, 076
1112 041 G
1113 030, 031, 032
1114 020
1115 045, 056
1116 015
1117 042, 048
1118 028
1119 038
1120 009, 010, 011, 012
1121 024, 026, MS 260
1122 064, 066, MS 650, MS 660
1123 021, 023, 025, MS 210, MS 250
1124 084, 088, MS 880
1125 034, 036, MS 360
1127 029, 039, MS 290, MS 310, MS 390
1128 044, 046, MS 440, MS 460
1129 020 T, MS 200 T
1130 017, 018, MS 170, MS 180
1132 019 T, MS 191T
1133 MS 270, MS 280
1135 MS 361
1137 MS 192
1138 MS 441
1139 MS 171, MS 181, MS 211
1140 MS 311, MS 362, MS 391
1141 MS 261, MS 271, MS 291

Nice list. Rep for you!

 

[064AV]

I see you're in Georgia, but around here the market for that big of a saw had fallen on it's face. Even so, an 066 would have to be thrashed to be worth less than 350. They run3-500 currently in this small town. However, they are hard to sell due to becoming a "want" and not a "need" like a 460. I can sell my 460 faster and for more than my 066. But you can get a better deal on the big saws because of that. I missed a 660 this summer for 250 cause I didn't have the money, and I wouldn't trade him my 460

 

[homelitejim]

My 066 is in fantastic shape and I paid $250 but than it was a great deal, don't be afraid of the great deal they are out there.

 

[homelitejim]

If it is in rough shape ask if he will take less, flash a couple of bills in his face and see what he says. It will still be cheaper to rebuild this saw than buy a new one. There are a few around here for sale but all are over $450 and a few look well used.

 

[fearofpavement]

saw is following me home!

Well, I have acquired the 066. It runs well and I made about 20 cuts with it. Started normally, idled ok. It appeared to not be putting much oil on the 24" Oregon bar but I took it off and cleaned the groove and that seemed to help some on the second group of cuts. I am not sure where the oiler is set at. Also, it was mid 30's so maybe the oil was a bit congealed as the saw was in an unheated shed.

I will try to get some photos on here. The bucking spike is cracked in half. I will probably weld that. The chain catcher is shredded so I'm looking for one of those and the oil guide. (the tin plate that goes between the bar and saw) was installed on top of the retaining screw so that is damaged. ie, the screw that holds the guide on was installed and then the guide was placed over the top and forced to conform to the screw head and it tore and distorted it. Probably a hammer and anvil will resolve that.

the saw appears well used but "intact and operable". I think it was worth the money. I'm gonna try for pics in the next post.

 

[fearofpavement]

photos (I hope)

Here are some "it happened" photos.View attachment 213598View attachment 213599View attachment 213600View attachment 213601View attachment 213602

 

[SawTroll]

Well, I have acquired the 066. It runs well and I made about 20 cuts with it. Started normally, idled ok. It appeared to not be putting much oil on the 24" Oregon bar but I took it off and cleaned the groove and that seemed to help some on the second group of cuts. I am not sure where the oiler is set at. Also, it was mid 30's so maybe the oil was a bit congealed as the saw was in an unheated shed.

I will try to get some photos on here. The bucking spike is cracked in half. I will probably weld that. The chain catcher is shredded so I'm looking for one of those and the oil guide. (the tin plate that goes between the bar and saw) was installed on top of the retaining screw so that is damaged. ie, the screw that holds the guide on was installed and then the guide was placed over the top and forced to conform to the screw head and it tore and distorted it. Probably a hammer and anvil will resolve that.

the saw appears well used but "intact and operable". I think it was worth the money. I'm gonna try for pics in the next post.

Sounds like you got a good deal! :msp_smile:

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

Congrats on both the saw and your diligence!

Poge

 

[homelitejim]

The oil adjuster is on the bottom of the saw. All the parts you need are easy to get new and replace. Very nice acquisition.