I will run mine tomorrow or next day at lastest and get back with an update. It rained all day here. Got someone in the 070 thread going to post data on Friday on their 16 and chain. Mores better
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TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
One came with the 365 I bought on aliexpress. I've run 8 tanks through that saw and the bar seems to be holding up well.
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Mine has no labels on it.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
Whoever made these bars will put whatever name you want on it, such as "Holzfforma", or "Richmond" like as it on mine, or whatever other silly thing you want to make up. You have to look at the actual parts to see if they are the same, and clearly all the clones with Sugihara-pattern tips are made by the same factory regardless of the name on it. Given the incredible price these bars are a good buy (even if you have tweak it a bit as I did), and of course they will cut wood. I'd buy another if mine were more worn, but they are super cheap bargain bars - don't try to make more of it than that.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
Of course there are, but that is not what I wrote. Spend some time looking at bars on eBay, especially 84DL bars. Look for bars with Sugihara-pattern tips - you will find very few. I don't think for a minute that there are multiple factories pumping those out.
I've been playing with Chinese clone saws, bars and chains since well before you signed up here, and still like and use them regularly. Still, these are cheap bars and the Huztl and Holzfforma names means little. It's just a typical importing/branding organization bringing in some low priced parts and supplies, probably from various manufacturers, for bargain prices. There is no need to make more of it than that.
thats exactly what you are doing. i will make a mental note that you are the expert on manufactures of chinese bars. lol
tpence2177
ArboristSite Operative
If you have a spur sprocket does the width of the drivers matter as long as the bar and the chain match up? Would like to get a 24 inch bar for my cs-590 but there are no 3/8 .050 options
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TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Width doesn't matter with that type of sprocket.
Johnnybar
ArboristSite Guru
"Width" or guage does not matter with any type of sprocket, spur or rim. Only pitch is a factor for your decision on sprockets. So when purchasing a new bar, the tip, sprocket and chain pitch must match , and the bar's gauge must match the chain's ...occasionally it needs to match the tip with some manufacturers but not in this instance. As a side note, double check the gauge of the bar and the pitch of the nose of import bars...some have noted that they sometimes are not correct with the specs stamped on the bar. I believe 3/8LP was sent with a regular 3/8 tip for one forum member iirc.
If you are not running a bunch of saws just toss that bar and chains in a box and rebuy the .063 bar and chain here is an thread that might make you feel better. the chain is a little beefer. This threads veers but you can skim the posts to stay on the topic of what you want to know about.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/3-8-x-050-vs-3-8-x-063-chain.24774/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/3-8-x-050-vs-3-8-x-063-chain.24774/
Johnnybar
ArboristSite Guru
That thread is 12 yrs old and full of misinformation...I would not give it too much regard in making your decision. My understanding is that all 3/8 chain is .063 at the ties and the narrower gauges are thinner only at the portion of the drive link that runs in the bar's groove. This allows all guages to use the same nose sprocket. If I'm wrong on that then the nose sprockets have to all be .050 in order to run the narrow pitches and the .063's. Look close and you will see the step in the width of each drive link where it is narrower.
Everything i said could be wrong but not because the thread is old. that chain has not changed in 12 years. no new information about chain sizes has been discovered in that time regarding going from a .050 to a .063 that i can remember
the op needs a longer bar and he is going to need to change chain sizes if he uses huztl. the information regarding that is still relevant and plus saw trol knows a bit. i not even sure how to address this. tpence use your reading skills there is a lot of mis information everywhere.
Johnnybar
ArboristSite Guru
You've read too much into my response.
tpence2177
ArboristSite Operative
Sounds good. Thanks guys.
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Johnnybar
ArboristSite Guru
That thread was full of misinfo then and now, as is much of what is read on just about any forum these days. My prior statement has nothing to do with chain being any different 12 yrs ago nor was it directed at any individual contributor as well as not being all inclusive. Have a good day making chips friends.
tpence2177
ArboristSite Operative
Just so I have this right, it doesn't matter on my husqvarna 51 (which has a rim sprocket) if I used .058 instead of the 0.050 and I wouldn't even have to change the rim?
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