Locking Saw Lanyard Snaps

[Oxman]

Today I lost a saw off a non-locking lanyard snap. No damage, it landed in a shrub & soft dirt. Good thing nobody was underneath.

It is an 020 with the wire ring for lanyard attachment. This thin metal must have opened the spring gate by twisting. I think I'll put a screwlock biner on instead, like on the other end of the lanyard, where it attaches to the saddle.

My question is: Do you use locking Saw lanyard snaps?

 

[Rob Murphy]

No I don't Ox.

Does that mean I get a smack up the side off the head?

I Guess its a trade off......the inconvience/security off undoing locks Vs the ease of release with out.
From 020T we step up to 046 Mag we use "bungy strop" with two small biners attached.

 

[treeman82]

What I like to use is the straps for my chain saws. They don't break all too easily, and take weight pretty well. They are the kind where you just pull the tail through a sling and you got it no problem. I use that for my 044 and for my 020T

 

[Acer]

Same thing happened to me a long while ago. I use screwgate or locking karabiners at each end of the strop, or sometimes I just choke the sling around the wire loop or chainsaw handle. These karabiners are older ones I wouldn't use in my climbing system any more. My chainsaw strop has a ring built into it, so you can adjust the length and have the saw next to you for moving around the tree. I use a carbine hook (which doesn't lock) for that - even if that came undone, the saw will be still attached to me.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I had a non locking carabiner which would twist open once in a while so I went to a twist lock. The problem is the vibration from the saw opens and closes the screw gate. I'll try a kong double auto locking rope snap next. Of course, this means I gotta get a hand on the snap to clip in.

I like to have the clip on the saw so after a cut you can clip it where ever you please. I like it mounted rigidly for one handed re-attachment to your belt, instead of lowering to the end of the lanyard and pulling it back up, for each cut.

 

[DDM]

I had a similiar experience about a month ago. I had the end of the saw lanyard attached to my belt with a Accessory Biner i was about 25' in the tree repositioning when my wife asked me if i ment to do that? Do what i replied and she pointed at my 020 in a pile of
brush. Lanyard and all now i use a locking biner I was lucky it didnt damage the saw or fall on someone.

 

[Nickrosis]

<img align="right" src="http://www.uwsp.edu/stuorg/ssa/photogallery/photo16796/jojo1.jpg">Our good friend Jojo, as we call him, was making a cut in this <i>Ulmus americana</i> to take out a large piece of hazard deadwood. While I was standing below him, it started raining - a bolt, a housing, a chain brake, a bar, and a chain. I looked up and Jojo was holding half a chainsaw in his hands!

He <i>thought</i> he had tightened the bolt! Well, there is not a circumstance in the world where you will catch me without a hard hat on my head when working in or under a tree. Here's a link to the big picture: http://www.uwsp.edu/stuorg/ssa/pictures/jojo1.jpg

Nickrosis

 

[Oxman]

Glad you're still smiling. It's no fun driving guys to the hospital.

Maybe OSHA can fix the problem by requiring 2 foot long bar bolts, so we have 'adequate' warning that things are coming loose? They could be used as felling sights or callus scribing.

 

[Nickrosis]

I'm seeing possibilities with that. Perhaps you could screw those onto the side of your saddle and have the same benefits of knowing in advance that it will fall off.

Some of those designers need to stop worrying about air intakes and start thinking of bread slots in front of the muffler so I can toast bread in the morning, have a hot ham sandwich for lunch, and a steak for dinner. Just keep A1 sauce in the oil reservoir, and you could have a tasty steak when you butterfly it with the saw.

Nickrosis

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I thought dinner was why you kept the truck running all day. Isn't it a slow cooker?

I used to use retired fliplines for saw lanyards till one twisted off a worn clip.

Tried some flimsy 8mm cord and dog snap ones, not happy.

I use one of theos long web traps with a ring on one end and a locking biner on the other. I clip it to an accesory biner jammed into the saddle belt. Haven't lost one on this setup, had it 3 years now.

Tom D. how bout a pic of your Swedish saw hook?

 

[dan kraus]

I use locking biners on my saw lanyard but have a hook on my saddle to hang it from, this way I can take it off and on with one hand.
Speeking on saw modifications I once tried to hook up a system to bring the hot exhaust from my saw to the inside of my gloves.

 

[DDM]

As far as Bar nuts coming loose you would think on a saw designed for climbing they would leave a long enough stud to double nut it . I wunder how many times a situation like Nicks has occured?

 

[Rob Murphy]

Originally posted by dan kraus
I use locking biners on my saw lanyard but have a hook on my saddle to hang it from, this way I can take it off and on with one hand.
Speeking on saw modifications I once tried to hook up a system to bring the hot exhaust from my saw to the inside of my gloves.

Do you like.... work in snow...I did that once

 

[Tom Dunlap]

they would leave a long enough stud to double nut it.

Nuts loosening up has always been pilot error, not machine error, on my crew. Using Ny-lock nuts would be a better solution than double nutting.

Tom

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Rob, you worked in the snow? What did you do go into the mountains?

When it is winter 5 months out of the year, you still gotta put food in your belly, 'sides I like the high 20's F better then anything else if it si sunny and calm . Good working weather.

Nuthin like being up a tree when the big chunks of lake effect snow come drifting down.

I had my saw fall aprt once, I made the mistake of trusting the repare shop in tightening things up.

 

[Rob Murphy]

Just missed!!

Started removing the other half of this pine today.After reading the posts I decided to double biner our new 200T.

 

[Rob Murphy]

Trunk shot

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

that looks like a fun bucking job.

How do you get the big chunks out?

 

[Rob Murphy]

"Rob, you worked in the snow? What did you do go into the mountains? "

JPS exactly!!! Mt Tomah near Sydney.White flaky stuff cold an wet...YUK...
Standing trunk 80' heigh 48''dbh..
After all day in a pine I feel for the guys who do them all the time.

 

[coydog]

Ive had a saw roll out of its carabiner 3 times in the last 5 yrs, the first time it was a non locking biner, the second a non locking snap, and the third the non locking accesory snap on the right side of my arbormasterII saddle, think I would have learned by now. All 3 times it was 40 ft plus, the first time about 70' . An 020, never any damage, always on grass. I've had the screwlock biners vibrate open but saw it before I lost it. I use the bungee lanyard from sherrill and really like it. Now I hang my saw lanyard from my accesory snap first then clip my handsaw scabbard into the same snap second, and the scabbard seems to block any twisting motion that could open my snap. The bungge lanyard has a second larger ring close to the handle that I hook onto an accesory biner if I dont want my saw hanging. I was once the last in a convoy on the interstate, the chipper truck was ahead of me going about 75mph when the guy's 020 comes flying out the back, wind takes it into a fast spin, hits pavement and rolls into the shoulder, I pulled over and retrieved it, it had one very superficial scuff on the handle and two or three teeth on the chain needed resharpening.