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Where can I find instruction on properly using a chainsaw near Duluth, MN. We have just purchased our first home and I plan on burning a lot of wood. But unfortunately I did not grow up doing this. Last time out I dropped and tree and I swear a good 10 seconds later a limb fell from "I still don't know where". Thanks to my hardhat I am still here, unfortunately my chainsaw was ruined as well as my pride. I promised my wife and kids no more trees until I learned more about it.
 
A few organizations do training for professionals ( mandated for insurance), for sport such as for colleges, and for landowners.

Game of Logging (GOL)
Intense program that approaches chainsawing as a serious business and sport. Neat website. Ther are courses all over N. America.

Certified Logging Professional (CLP)
In Maine strictly for pros but well worth the time and $$$$ if you want to know how to cut efficiently and safely.

Check out MN Schools of Forestry for training, your county extension service, and Consulting Foresters for where to train.

Good idea !
 
you can also go to to the local stihl dealer in Duluth and ask the service department if they have extra owners manuals there is basic info in them and it will get you started. also stay around here and you will get a lot of very helpfull information dont be afraid to ask
 
you can also go to to the local stihl dealer in Duluth and ask the service department if they have extra owners manuals there is basic info in them and it will get you started. also stay around here and you will get a lot of very helpfull information dont be afraid to ask

For starters go to Stihl's website and download one of their manuals. Also, be sure to invest in some personal protection equipment. Ask at work if anyone there heats with wood. Offer to assist them to help learn the basics. Just check here to confirm they really know what they are doing. I know I sure was surprised at what little I really knew after lurking here for a short time.
 
No. Learn how to use them and see how you do. My first saw was an Echo that I gave to a friend. After cutting firewood for a season I realized it was too small and bought a used 028 from a forum member. Then things went crazy (see my signature). There are some good you tube vids showing bucking and so forth that will also be helpful along with the Stihl educational products already mentioned. What saws do you have?
 
They are both no name brands. I saw a sthil the other day but it was close to $500 and we just do not have that kind of money right now.

A friend of mine moved to Florida last year and he needed cash badly so he sold me his Jonsered CS 2150 18" for $50. It is one year old and it came with 3 new chains and looks brand new.

The other is an orange huscavarna. It is brand new, and all I know about it is that the bar is 18" and it is a Nascar Edition. Funny story with this saw is that when I purchased our living room suite off of craigslist, I was loading up the mattress from their garage and the lady had just recently divorced and she said that the chainsaw was too big for her, well it worked out great for both of us because as a present I received a craftsman 14" chainsaw that I hardly ever used. We ended up trading straight up. The only thing is that the case it came with is huge and bulky.

I saw a new craftsman chainsaw on craigslist and was going to call and see if the person would trade for my 2 chainsaws.

Any thoughts? Will dealers take saws in on trade for a sthil?
 
NO WAY! Keep the ones you have. The Jonsered is a decent homeowner firewood saw and the Husqvarna is probably better than anything Craftsman even without knowing the model number. Learn about your saws and how to use them. Then decide if you want a Stihl. You got some good luck getting those saws the way you did. Spend your money on protective gear first.
 
They are both no name brands. ...

... he sold me his Jonsered ...

The other is an orange huscavarna.



Uh, Duluth? "No name saws"??? Those are two of the best names in the business!! They both make homeowner grade saws, but so does Stihl. Any of the three homeowner grade saws are going to be FAR better than new Craftsman!


Do some learning before you start getting saw hungry!


FYI, Husky & Jonsered were owned by the same company until just recently, and are basically the same saw.

There are Stihlheads & Huskyheads & Jonyheads, just like there are Fordheads & Chevyheads.

You'll do fine with any of the three. Local dealer support is more important than brand, unless you are going to be your own saw mechanic.

:cheers:
 
Oh, I forgot to mention something.


Just like there are Stihlheads and Husky-Jonyheads, which are basically like Chevyheads and Fordheads, there are also Wild-Thingheads. They are roughly equivalent to Dodgeheads.



:laugh:
 
I'll hazard a guess that the husqvarna is a 350. Lots of different models came with 18" bars but the only "nascar edition" I'm aware of is the 350 model that they sold at Lowe's a few years ago.

The husqvarna owner's manual will likewise contain a tutorial and lots of safety information. You can download .pdf manuals from husqvarna's website for free.
 
I had my instructions downloaded from the internet by several well known specialists that live in my country; they also have adapted the text so I could understand it.


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also youtube could help a lot
 
I had my instructions downloaded from the internet by several well known specialists that live in my country; they also have adapted the text so I could understand it.



Yer a funny guy! :laugh:


:cheers:




also youtube could help a lot



Yes, but some caution is needed. There are more idiots than experts on Youtube!


Duluth, stay FAR AWAY from the moron at "Expert Village". That guy is going to get somebody killed.



When you've got a few trees under your belt, and have read a few hundreds posts here by REAL experts, you can go back and watch that guys videos for entertainment.

Do NOT take his advice! :dizzy:
 
Back to your original question. Most trail clubs offer chainsaw certifications through the USFS or Dept of Interior. They'll probably ask you to join their club, but if you want practice cutting and bucking, there's an endless supply of deadfalls in the state and federal lands near you. First step though is to Google "MN Trail club" or "chainsaw certification". See what you get
 
Buy a copy of The Fundamentals of General Tree Work by GF Beranek. Read it, even the parts that pertain to work you won't be doing. It will give you a good sense of how trees operate, the forces at work, and how to manage/predict/control/avoid them.

Otherwise, it's a matter of experience. I've found that you can teach someone a LOT about how trees work by setting them up limbing a downed tree with a slow saw (the reed valve Echos or old Homelite XL/192/200 saws are great for this). The slow saw allows you to see how the wood is reacting, to see how tension and twisting forces operate, and to become better at predicting what a standing live tree will do.

Also consider watching some of EKKA's videos, which may still be linked off ArboristSite; they can also be found on his site and on youtube. You can learn a thing or two on there, for sure. There are also some other good videos (primarily northern European/Scandanavian in origin) on youtube that you may wish to look at. Poke around, you'll soon have an eye for when people are doing things right and when they're doing them wrong.

Once you're out in the field, keep your gear running right. Don't over-bar your saws, don't run dull chains, don't skip your safety gear, buy and use your wedges (buy many!) for felling and bucking, and don't hesitate to put a proper line up in a tree if directional precision is required. Do note, however, that if you are going to put a line in a tree, please have the sense to use proper rope, not that crap from Home Depot. I used the HD stuff for years in my teens, and while I'm still here to tell about it, I feel much better tensioning a limb or whole tree with a length of 3/4" StableBraid tied off to my Jeep than I ever did with my 1/2" braided non-name unrated poly crap from HD. You can get great deals on odd-length pieces of professional-grade name-brand ropes on eBay. A couple 60-80' lengths of Stable Braid, a throwbag and line, and you will be MUCH better off than 99% of home woodcutters when it comes time to put tricky trees down.

Beyond that, study what you're doing. You'll soon figure out where your mistakes are and what parts of the process are intuitive to you. Learn from mistakes, aim for perfection in cutting and safety, and don't get overconfident - I've never hurt myself dropping a tree that I respected, but I have put a saw into my thigh a time or two (in the days before I wore chaps) when trimming out "easy" scrubby 3" trees.
 
Oh, I forgot to mention something.


Just like there are Stihlheads and Husky-Jonyheads, which are basically like Chevyheads and Fordheads, there are also Wild-Thingheads. They are roughly equivalent to Dodgeheads.



:laugh:

Maybe I ought to buy a Wild thing.
 
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