Looks Like We lost Jonsered

[bulletpruf]

Is that like a Malewoman?

I see what you did there.

 

[HarleyT]

What model Stihls are "rebranded Redmax"??

 

[earlthegoat2]

Yep, Im waiting for this information too. My last post was pretty tongue in cheek.

 

[HarleyT]

Back in the early 1990s, Stihl's homeowner trimmers were Ryan/Ryobis, but I didn't know if they did it again.

 

[milkman]

OOOOps..... Mail carrier of no gender.

Non gender would have to be personperson.

 

[TBS]

Stihl HT 73 is a redmax, we have a bunch of redmax stratos that all interchange.

 

[HarleyT]

Looked it up, like the fs83. I never have seen one. @ how old is it?

 

[HarleyT]

Date on the mechanic manual says 2000.

 

[HarleyT]

Model history list shows the production dates 2000-2001.
No wonder I never have seen one.

 

[HarleyT]

FS80-85s around here, then switched to the 4180 style motors.

 

[TBS]

Ours is a 2000 model.

 

[backhoelover]

@fordf150 could tell us about the jonsered info hes a dealer

 

[svk]

I'd be willing to bet there is more RedMax product in New Jersey, Long Island, and Connecticut than there is Jonsered product sold by dealers nationwide.

Being a dealer you probably have more insight than I do but that's a pretty steep claim!

 

[spike60]

Being a dealer you probably have more insight than I do but that's a pretty steep claim!

Steve is right Steve!

Our Red Max distributor has individual salesmen doing $10 million. By the time Tilton got canceld they were down to $2-$3 million.

 

[166]

Steve is right Steve!

Our Red Max distributor has individual salesmen doing $10 million. By the time Tilton got canceld they were down to $2-$3 million.

Those dealers buy individual models by the truckload.

 

[svk]

One wonders why the parent company let Tilton run such a shitshow with Jonsered distribution? Or did they not care because they already had this in the works?

 

[spike60]

Well,, Tilton did what most guys rip Husky and Stihl for not doing. They stayed true to the "mom and pop saw shop" business model. And for a family owned company, it was fine for them. They never sought out the bigger dealers and they never put much effort into developing the product line beyond chainsaws. Husky and Stihl both thought bigger, filling out their product lines and looked to be in full line srores with dozens of feet of wall space for their products, and lots of floor space in Husky's case.

And as far as what was in the works, it was Jonsered, not Red Max that Husqvarna gave first crack at becoming a complete line. They gave them Jonsered lawn mowers, tractors, zero turns, snow blowers and other handheld products, some from Red Max. Obviously that was a flop, as none of those products gained any traction at all. Pretty much a case of too little, too late. But some guys feel they "had it in for Jonsered" all along, but that wasn't the case at all.

Thinking outside of the chainsaw box, like 166 and I have mentioned, Red Max is huge in some very big markets. They are a dominate player in those areas, not taking a back seat to anyone. Jonsered doesn't dominate anywhere, and it's been many years since they did. Hey, I don't like to see it go away. Look at my avatar. But on the business side I totally understand what they are doing.

 

[svk]

Very interesting.

I understand the need to reduce brands. Especially when most buyers know they are just getting a red Husqvarna anyhow. I always wondered why Husky didn't just put out an identical saw in red and black rather than a saw that looked completely different on the outside down to different handlebars, choke mechanisms, etc.

Off topic but I always wondered why Buick was the chosen model to stay when it seemed Pontiac had the most top selling models such as Grand Am and Grand Prix.

I guess if I want a 2260 I may have to act soon!!!

 

[HarleyT]

I think that the question would be. Would Jonsered done much better if they didn't choose Tilton as their North American distributor?
I think that would be a big YES.
It was Tilton's mishandling that hurt Jonsered.

 

[thefarmboy21]

I saw couple of yellow poulan saws next to the jred saws in TSC a couple weeks ago. They had fewer red saws also.

Wasn't it just in the last year or two that TSC did away with (or lost) the Husky line and went to J-red?