Hedgerow
HACK
Pfffttt... Farmer cut my ass...
mini barber chair
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This entire post is crap, just pure crap. You shouldn't be advising anybody on falling techniques. Your lack of experience is evident every time you post. We don't hold your lack of experience against you but when you make statements like this you can endanger somebody who doesn't know enough about falling and thinks you know what you're talking about. You don't. Not even close.
Loggers, east and west, both use bore cuts when necessary. They're one more tool that they know how to apply to better deal with a problem tree. I've used them, almost every faller I know...and I know a lot of them...will bore cut when it's called for. It's not a cut we use often out here but it does get used.
I don't cut as much hardwood as the guys back east but I cut my share. On leaning hardwood, depending again on the circumstances, I prefer the bore cut to the triangle Coos. On soft wood I use the Coos...usually. I can also Coos hardwood and bore softwood...the tree gets the cutting style that will do the best job.
I don't expect that you'll change your cutting habits. That's your choice. But you really need to S T F U when the discussions on falling start here. You're just embarrassing yourself.
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That's scary, reminds me I need to get a hair cut.
Okay, you're right. We've been insensitive and mean. We shouldn't be calling that the Farmer Cut. It's insulting to farmers.
But...now you have to come up with a good name for it. Slopping back cut is already in use...unless HBRN is here under a new username.
Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
I'm at work, just gonna lock this sob for now.
Meanwhile, from what I've seen and read, it'd be a good idea to not take advice from 066blaster.
Meanwhile, from what I've seen and read, it'd be a good idea to not take advice from 066blaster.
Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
Alright. I deleted about 40 posts in this thread. Some were due to bad advice, a lot because they didn't make sense after the bad advice was removed, and a couple just because they didn't serve any purpose but to call someone else names. To those that were just trying to help and got deleted, I apologize, but it takes time to do this mod stuff, and much more time that I don't have right now to edit posts so they make sense than it does to simply select em for deletion.
The thread has been re opened, but if I see more advice that's liable to get someone hurt or killed, I'll have to come back and take care of it. Please think before posting, and if you don't know that you're giving sound advice, keep your advice to yourself.
If you (066Blaster in particular) want to argue that your methods are better than those who do this for a living every day, take it to the Logging section so all of em can tear into you instead of just the few that take the time to check in on the Firewood section.
The thread has been re opened, but if I see more advice that's liable to get someone hurt or killed, I'll have to come back and take care of it. Please think before posting, and if you don't know that you're giving sound advice, keep your advice to yourself.
If you (066Blaster in particular) want to argue that your methods are better than those who do this for a living every day, take it to the Logging section so all of em can tear into you instead of just the few that take the time to check in on the Firewood section.
Nuzzy
Trail Gnome
Thanks, I think.
If people want to ask questions in Forestry and Logging I think they'll get fair consideration. If they need information I think we have an obligation to help them if we can.
They might not like the answers they get but the answers will be honest, straightforward, and based on actual real world experience.
Most of us who make our living in the woods have seen people badly injured and some of us have seen friends die. Most of us have also made enough mistakes ourselves to recognize that lack of experience and knowledge combined with a "the tree hit the ground and nobody got hurt" attitude is deadly.
We don't have a lot of patience with people who ask our opinion and then argue with it. Nor should we be required to.
So, if members want to ask questions I see nothing wrong with that. Maybe we can help somebody avoid getting hurt...or worse.
But fair warning...posers, ankle biters, and people who argue just to cover up their own inexperience won't like the F&L section. Not at all.
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
I don't know......I like it just fine over thereThanks, I think.
If people want to ask questions in Forestry and Logging I think they'll get fair consideration. If they need information I think we have an obligation to help them if we can.
They might not like the answers they get but the answers will be honest, straightforward, and based on actual real world experience.
Most of us who make our living in the woods have seen people badly injured and some of us have seen friends die. Most of us have also made enough mistakes ourselves to recognize that lack of experience and knowledge combined with a "the tree hit the ground and nobody got hurt" attitude is deadly.
We don't have a lot of patience with people who ask our opinion and then argue with it. Nor should we be required to.
So, if members want to ask questions I see nothing wrong with that. Maybe we can help somebody avoid getting hurt...or worse.
But fair warning...posers, ankle biters, and people who argue just to cover up their own inexperience won't like the F&L section. Not at all.
KenJax Tree
Terraphobic
I like the ones that already have their mind made up but still ask for advice and then get pissed off when nobody agrees with them.
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Yup. They don't want advice, they want you to validate what they've already decided to do. When you refuse to do that...in their own best interest...they get upset. Those kind are just looking for an arguement. Scroom.
Trx250r180
Saw polisher
all i have to say is barbercheese ,i bit into the side ,and the my sting cheese and it just chaired out on me ,i could have been seriously hurt 
philoshop
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Is there a general consensus among the experienced pros here with regards to strapping or chaining heavily leaning stems? Just curious.
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
I know how RandyMac feels about straps and chains.
I'm not going to disagree, I do know they do not like to split. I've probably been lucky, never had a chair and haven't tried the bore cut yet. The few leaners that I have cut I bored the back cut and then slant cut the tie with long arms and one foot out the door
treeslayer2003
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honestly, I think it gives a false sense of security. that is my opinion, as well there are trees that inexpeirianced folks just shouldn't try.
blumtn969
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I like the ratchet strap idea I bet that would work.
Nuzzy
Trail Gnome
Don't use chains. Just cut it right so it doesn't chair.
There may be exceptions somewhere, but they're few and far between.
There may be exceptions somewhere, but they're few and far between.
I will strap a tree if its split or has the potential to split while I am removing it. I will also use a bore cut when it is appropriate. One way to reduce the barber chair effect is to reduce the top weight of the tree. Blowing out the top of the tree is no big deal when you have a wide open drop zone. Once that end weight is reduced you greatly reduce the chance of the tree splitting.
