2000ssm6
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My point also, not everyone cares about the vibes, I don't. I have read that the 440 vibrates like hell but I can use mine for hours.....now the older saws are different.
MS 361 or MS460
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My point also, not everyone cares about the vibes, I don't. I have read that the 440 vibrates like hell but I can use mine for hours.....now the older saws are different.
2000ssm6
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Plus a dual port muffler cover. I researched this dual port cover deal.............now I have wood!.
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That is a great cover to get, looks good and works great!
fishhuntcutwood
Full wraps and long bars!!!!!!!!!
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THALL10326
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A slight side-step, there is absolutely no felt wibes in the 372xp, in the cut, and little out of it, with my Arthritis riddled fingers - it can't get better than that......:rockn: :rockn:
The 361 is also really good in the cut, but not as good out of it (doesn't matter much though, as it then is in my "good" hand only)......
The 372 is smooth, no question about it, smooth as the 441, close but nope. See Sawtroll Stihl uses bigger srpings and buffers on the housing, heck you saw the pics. I will give ya this though in all fairness, both are very smooth,
GASoline71
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THALL10326
The Champ
Vibe is no concern, cool. Sounds like to me in your mind you want the 460. I personally like the bushing system on that saw, it feels solid, much more so than the 441. That system has been used for years and years. So time to quit driving ya self silly and go get the 460. I got the older version, the 046. Its about 10-11 years old now, never seen a repair to date, they are well built saws and relaible as can be.
THALL10326
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But if you have to act like the saw is that bad on the back and you are hurting so much, you can't...small price to pay i guess!
Not tonite honey, my back hurts. Hell he may get the second saw by the end of September,LOL
SawTroll
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No need to, the saws I mentioned are more than good enough in that regard, and "no-one" needs the weight of the 441, when they can avoid it - the power to weight of that one brings us back to the Partner 7700 from about 1985 ....... :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
I will accept the weight (but maybe not the "fat-ass" design) - if and when the 461 comes out, and is basically the same saw......
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I ran my muffler modded 361 w/20" bar and woods ported 460 w/25" bar both this past weekend. Both bars were buried in >30" Oak. Yes the 460 is ported but man what a saw. If you don't mind the weight, get the 460 and a factory dual port muffler. You WILL love that saw. It's not heavy and has plenty of power to run a 28" bar on a every day basis. Nothing wrong with the vibes either. It runs plenty smooth for me. Now with that said, the 361 is an amazing runner once you open up the muffler. I vote the 460 w/25" bar and a ported 260 for the little stuff.
Get the 460(R) with 28" bar youll have the dogs and handle and you can pretend your a PNWerner:chainsawguy:
GASoline71
Mr. Nice Guy
He can pretend all he want Brian... LOL
The saw ain't gonna make anybody a PNW'er.
Nobody gets it until they actually come out here and cut wood.
Gary
SawTroll
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The 372 is smooth, no question about it, smooth as the 441, close but nope. See Sawtroll Stihl uses bigger srpings and buffers on the housing, heck you saw the pics. I will give ya this though in all fairness, both are very smooth,
What is the differense between nil-to-no vibes and no-to-nil vibes???????
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2000ssm6
Stihl User
I'm sure somebody will take your 372 in on a trade for a nice new 441, you will have better odds because yours is not the humpback cripple most are:biggrinbounce2:
SawTroll
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You are totally right, as far as I am consented, and you probably read some of my posts before you joined here - I never believed those numbers told the whole story, but in some countries they are about to outlaw some saw models from pro use (Dolmar 7900 etc), based on those numbers - totally imbecile actions imo.......
The vibe frequency numbers is just a part in the eqation - the vibe dampening is much more important - but the end result is a combination.
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Don't mind the weight, I used my late Grandpa's 031Av for years, its not light by any means at 16 lbs, this is what swayed me toward the MS460. Maybe someday I will have a 260 and 361..................now I'm dreaming. For now I think a MS460 and my Crapsman 42cc(currently 18" bar) with a 16" bar will do(until it blows chunks).
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SawTroll
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Get the one that fits most of your wood for starters, and then move from there if you need to, or just want to.
For a 16-18" bar, the MS361 is perfect for most people, but if you don't mind the weight (or the vibes), the 460 sure will cut faster, with an 8 pin rim.....:yoyo: :yoyo:
With longer bars, the difference will be greater.......
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litefoot
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Bingo!
And the 361 will pull a 24" just fine.
I agree. I talked myself into a 460 when the local dealer had a nice sell going on. More weight/power than I need, and man is it thirsty. I took it back and traded for a 361. I run 24" with full-skip for firewood. I fell and buck Ponderosa pine up to about 15-18". The 361 has power to spare.
Now my work saw is a 7900. It's noticeably more powerful than a 460. So if you're intent on a brute (not Brutus) saw which is lighter, more powerful and less expensive than a 460, then don't forget the Dolmar.
THALL10326
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Well I haven't runem both all day long but what little I have run them to me they are both smooth, me giving the 441 a slight edge. These frequency tests are done with a machine I assume, my tests are done with my arms, the machines that count. I say they are both plenty smooth.
superfire
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460 yes yes yes
460 w/28 bar and full skip and 3/4 wrap handle:rockn: :chainsawguy:
460 w/28 bar and full skip and 3/4 wrap handle:rockn:
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wdchuck
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The 460, with the better muff cover, once broken-in, will happily pull a 32" with full comp, even in oak, at least mine does, also likes the 24" and 20" bars too.
On a side note, my 460 also doubles as my small diameter milling saw, under 20", again, no problems.
Treat yourself later on to the 361 or a Dolmar 5100 for a limber.
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On a side note, my 460 also doubles as my small diameter milling saw, under 20", again, no problems.
Treat yourself later on to the 361 or a Dolmar 5100 for a limber.
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