My First Post Here

[Nate Surveyor]

And I need advice on an arborist saw. I have a local Stihl dealer.

I think either the 192 or the 200. I have a Stihl 018 with the wrenchless chain adjuster on it. I wish I could get an arborist saw, with wrenchless adjustment.

$315 for the 192, and $650 for the 200.

Also, I need some more mini belts for my climbing spurs, and one pad is in poor condition.

And, another climbing rope. Mine is too old, and made of natural fibers (real old!)

Anyway, thanks!:greenchainsaw:

Nate

 

[385XP]

I have 2 192s ones top hadle and ones a rear handle they are great saws. the rear handle is great for ground work tsi fence clearing of small trees. they were on sale last month fo 289. Iv never ran a 200 but people say they are great saws and well worth the extra money.

 

[ClimbinArbor]

just depends on how much your gonna use it, and your budget. if your gonna climb ten trees a day and have the funds get a 200. If you dont climb much or dont have the funds get a 192. i have had both and the are both great saws. the 200 has just a little more cajones and some metal where the 192 has some plastic. my stihl guy told me one company around here started buying 192s cause he had a few newbie climbers dropping saws, and has had no complaints.

just depends on your needs, theyre both great saws

and as far as i know neither has wrenchless adjustments yet, but neither one really needs it

 

[TDunk]

The 200T is the standard by wich all other top handles are compared to. I use a 192T and have had excellant luck with it. As far as i know it's the lightest top handle you can buy, and one of the cheapest.

 

[beowulf343]

I wish I could get an arborist saw, with wrenchless adjustment.

Why?

 

[Nate Surveyor]

Why?

Because I want to carry it on the 4-wheeler, 100% of the time, and often I set out and walk a good way from the 4-wheeler.

I don't want a wrench to loose, keep track of, and need!

Thanks!

Nate

 

[kennertree]

$650 sounds kinda high for the 200. Last time I checked at the dealer around here it was in the 500's. If you're gonna be using the saw ever day doing removals go with the 200, if not, go with the 192.

 

[md_tree_dood]

Spend the money on a 200T. First off, it has more horsepower, second, if dropped there are only a few things that will break on it and its cheaper to repair those few things than to buy a brand new 192 which, if dropped is most likely out for the count because of the way its built. I dropped my 200T from my bucket fully extended and when it hit the ground it shattered the pull handle, offset the handbrake out of its position, but was still running! By the way, everyone in the maryland area seems to sell 200's for $579, thats the price I'd be looking for.

I've used a 192 and its good for light duty but once you get into removals or lots of rigging, you'll want the extra horsepower.

 

[squad143]

Careful, this site is addictive.

Lots of good advice here. Go with the 200 if you can afford it, you'll eventually be buying one (or two) if you continue doing tree work.

As far as pads go, get yourself a set of aluminum "caddy pads" from Bailey's, they are worth every cent, should have bought a set years ago.

..and for the rope, you already know it needs replacement. They are not expensive and you literally hang your life from it.

Buy yourself one of these: http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=17270 For only $3.50 you can keep your wrench attached to the grab handle of your saw.

 

[beowulf343]

Why?

Because I want to carry it on the 4-wheeler, 100% of the time, and often I set out and walk a good way from the 4-wheeler.

I don't want a wrench to loose, keep track of, and need!

Thanks!

Nate

This answer always cracks me up. Why not wish for chains that never get dull so you don't need to carry a file or saws that run on air so you don't need a gas/oil can? It's really no big deal to carry a scrench, one goes in my pocket every morning just like my knife-it's part of working with saws. I've done alot of jobs way off road where you have to walk a couple miles carrying everything on your back-poles and a gas can are much more problematic to carry than a scrench. There are so many ways to carry a scrench-i've got a holster on my chaps, and another attached to the handle of my gas can. You can carry them in your pocket, on your saddle, on your saw, and i've even worked with guys who carrry them on a chain around their neck. Besides, how often does a scrench get used? A few times to tighten up a new chain but that's about it. If you know what you are doing, you can run a chain till it's worn out without ever throwing it. And alot of the saws these days don't even need a scrench to get to the air filter.

Frankly, i hate the wrenchless adjustment on saws and i hate the fact that part time saw users are always whining about having to carry a little scrench. If the saw model you want doesn't have the wrenchless adjustment, then switch to a model that does. You want an arborist saw then you whine that it doesn't have homeowner features-fantastic.

(Hmm, i guess i'm a little grumpy this morning.)

 

[Nate Surveyor]

Well, Beowulf, that cracked me up!

What you don't realize, is I use my saws for MANY things, beyond a normal person.

I'll post you a pic.


Gone to figger out pic posting.:greenchainsaw:

Nate

 

[ddhlakebound]

I carry 6 saws at all times, each with a decidely different purpose....

The first one is for when I need a pry bar.

The second one is used as a stepladder when I need it.

The third one I took the bar off, and use the fuel and oil tanks to carry kool-aid.

The fourth I does'nt leave the truck, it's a wheel chock for parking on hills.

The fifth one I use as a hammer, for when those pesky wedges won't pound in with a stick.

And the sixth is just for show. People think you look cool when you've got a whole bunch of chainsaws.

The beauty part is, I don't need a scrench for any of 'em. It's nice. I also carry around an axe and a bowsaw, for when I actually want to cut something down or limb it up, because thats WAY easier than sticking a scrench in my pocket.

Just teasin' Nate......welcome to AS. We all use our saws for "different stuff". But most of us have just accepted that a scrench is neccessary, and very easy to keep with you.

 

[capetrees]

It's tough to change old habits for some guys. I'm one of them. I don't like the tool-less adjusters based on the idea that I think they're flimsy and not able to stand up to punishment of the job. But then again, it seems to be the way of the future of the saws, easier to use for all. Look at the tool-less oil and gas caps. HATE that idea. What was so wrong with a screw on cap? How many times have I been covered in bar oil or gas because the cap wasn't on right? EVERY tool-less cap I've ever owned has been replaced two or three times. They just don't work. But, as I mentioned, it seems to be the way of the future.

On the issue of supplies, try Sherrill, http://www.wtsherrill.com/home.asp?idAtype=work

or try Wesspur
http://www.wesspur.com/

They should have anything you need.The Sherrill catalog is very helpful in deciding on ropes I found. Good luck!

 

[pbtree]

Welcome aboard!

 

[Nate Surveyor]

Ok, for a test on the pics:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Nate_Surveyor/DSC04149.jpg

This is my two little helpers. Big Help, and Princess Elizabeth.

Big Help is 8, and Princess is 4.

Nate

 

[Nate Surveyor]

And, here I am carrying a normal load of stuff.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Nate_Surveyor/DSC04158.jpg

 

[Job Corps Tree]

I am in Hot Springs . I teach out at the Job Corps center in Royal. We have only to good tree stores in AR Vermeer in Russellville and a new one in Little Rock Pinnacle Arborist Supplies 1001A Rushing Circle ( I-630 & Rodney Parham) phone 501 837 1212. Glad to have you here, good stuff

 

[Nate Surveyor]

Thanks Jobs Corps.

It took me a while to find page 2, of this thread! I will have to go and shop. When you are not real experienced with fancy new equipment, going to a bricks and mortar store are nice!

I do trees for relief from my regular job, land surveying.

Nate

 

[Job Corps Tree]

If you don't know , you can always ask. If your not shure you can ask , Lot of good people here and you can get in touch with me. This is what I do and what I teach here at Job Corps. The Urban Tree Worker Class , training for the ISA certified tree worker/ climber specialist test. I can't be that far away

 

[Nate Surveyor]

It's great to hear from somebody near.

Maybe sometime do coffee.

I do want to get fully equipped to top trees.

I actually do a few now, but I don't have enough equipment.

I have a Peterson Sawmill.

Nate