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The little hole in the base in relation to where your felling tree?
Need advice on how to fall scary leaner
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The little hole in the base in relation to where your felling tree?
Well, the hoe is easily the heaviest, and most likely the smoothest pull.
It is no problem to borrow.
It gets a little complicated. The hole in the base is directly opposite the lean of the main stem. The main stem will clear the trees if It falls as it leans, but two large leaders will likely rub the hell out of them on the way down.
As you stand behind the tree, looking at that little hole in the base, the two I want to save are at 1:00 and 2:30 with respect to the natural fall.
I have a feeling that it may break where the big hole is at the first branch.
The hole in the base looks to be well healed and balanced well, as far as the tension goes. As you look at the first branch ( vertical one ) it goes to hell from there. Clock wise twist, big hole, unbalanced branches...
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ropensaddle
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Sometimes I anchor behind tree with heavy cable and just snug it as the tree falls it gets tighter and swings the tree clear. Note: this can be dangerous if the tree jumps off stump it needs a good henge to work correct and good placement of cable!
As I've said, that is one option. I would be happier to see it on the ground though. I have two kids, 7 and 8 yrs. who venture into this patch of woods every once in a while. If you have kids, you know how long their memory is for warnings...
You are giving me lots to think about...
When I make it back down there, I will surely have a fresh perspective.
I have used the cable many times to pull a tree, and have thought about swinging one, but never really needed to. I'm just a homeowner/firewood cutter after all.
I do tend to learn quick though.:hmm3grin2orange:
ropensaddle
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Just make sure you don't get hurt , while this is a way to handle some trees, leaners can mess up, if it only has to swing a little it may work but it is important to study the weight, volume of sound wood, cable strength etc. Anchor must be suitable as well! and lean must be utilized not worked against. Definitely take your sweet time deciding, I ain't there friend and a computer can be a death sentence. If you could take a throw ball and get the cable high and break the top probably be safe but I am no fan of a ladder. You can make a cheap throwball and use 1/4 inch rope to pull a larger rope up to pull cable up! What ever your choice ultimately have a 97% feeling it will work and a 100% safety factor if things go bad!
No worries rope.
I'm not into risk taking these days.
Hell, I don't even drink and drive anymore.
I haven't done anything yet, because I have not been comfortable and had a solid plan of attack.
Whatever I end up with, safety will be my number one priority.
It is a very heavy, dangerous tree.
I'm not into risk taking these days.
Hell, I don't even drink and drive anymore.
I haven't done anything yet, because I have not been comfortable and had a solid plan of attack.
Whatever I end up with, safety will be my number one priority.
It is a very heavy, dangerous tree.
ropensaddle
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No worries rope.
I'm not into risk taking these days.
Hell, I don't even drink and drive anymore.
I haven't done anything yet, because I have not been comfortable and had a solid plan of attack.
Whatever I end up with, safety will be my number one priority.
It is a very heavy, dangerous tree.
Hey maybe you could incorporate target practice with firewooding lol. Just shoot it down!
Ohhhhhhhhh carp scratch that prolly neighbors near by lol
ropensaddle
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12 or 10 gauge slugs hitting square may be fun and productive<a href="http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=11" target="_blank"><img src="http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000203F2.gif" border="0" title="Click to get more." ></a>
How many shots with a 12 ga. do you think she'll need?
I have a clear lane to attack it! Full choke, 3 1/2" mags...
Don't know if my shoulder will hold up tho.
ropensaddle
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I'm sure someone has probably done this.
Oh yeah many times on ice storm clearing lines lol. It depends on how good of shot you are bro!
Just another one for the fallers bag of tricks eh?
I'll take it under advisement.
4:30 shows up awful quick this time of year. I'm gonna hit it.
Thanks for the advice. I'll update the thread, maybe even with pics!
I'll take it under advisement.
4:30 shows up awful quick this time of year. I'm gonna hit it.
Thanks for the advice. I'll update the thread, maybe even with pics!
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Yep, I understand that. Got 4 youngins myself. How far are you from 44062?
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Honestly, unless im missing something from the pics, that tree would be best felled, and leave all the rope and cable coiled up. i or any other competent faller could have that tree on the ground in less than 2 minutes. 
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How many shots with a 12 ga. do you think she'll need?
I have a clear lane to attack it! Full choke, 3 1/2" mags...
Don't know if my shoulder will hold up tho.
How about a LAW? Oughta do the trick and no harm to the shoulder.
Oh, yeah. The BATF might not like that.
Dropped it.
Well after letting nature take it's course , the stubborn bugger still stood, so I decided to not worry about the trees I wanted to save, and just go ahead with the saw. I ran a heavy strap around the trunk above my cut, and started a notch. As made the first cut, I saw lots of black junk in the chips, and the cut got real easy real early. The top of the upper notch cut closed right up and I had to pull the saw a bit to get it out. I was able to finish the notch, and got the wedge out, but as I suspected, the sucker is hollow as can be. There looks to be about two inches of good wood on the outside of the tree. My next move was to bore in, and establish a hinge on the first side( 20" bar not long enough to go all the way through.) I left about 3"for a hinge, and I cut about 8 inches from the hinge to the back, and moved to the other side. My intention was to do the same thing, and then cut the strap to release, but as bored in from the second side, and started cutting, the lean was too much, and it started to fall. I kept the saw wide open and made as much of the back cut as possible while it fell. As much lean as it had, and as hollow as it was, I'm surprised it stood this long on it's own, but that two inches or so of good wood was pretty stable. The hinge held until one of the leaders hit another tree, and it rolled off to the second side. All in all, very controlled considering how little tree was still there. The ratchetstrap was a big deal. Without it, I think It would have been very dangerous to be anywhere near the base. Thanks for the advice given, I have been keeping the kids away from this thing for quite a while now, and I no longer have to worry about it. View attachment 228440View attachment 228441View attachment 228442View attachment 228443View attachment 228444
Well after letting nature take it's course , the stubborn bugger still stood, so I decided to not worry about the trees I wanted to save, and just go ahead with the saw. I ran a heavy strap around the trunk above my cut, and started a notch. As made the first cut, I saw lots of black junk in the chips, and the cut got real easy real early. The top of the upper notch cut closed right up and I had to pull the saw a bit to get it out. I was able to finish the notch, and got the wedge out, but as I suspected, the sucker is hollow as can be. There looks to be about two inches of good wood on the outside of the tree. My next move was to bore in, and establish a hinge on the first side( 20" bar not long enough to go all the way through.) I left about 3"for a hinge, and I cut about 8 inches from the hinge to the back, and moved to the other side. My intention was to do the same thing, and then cut the strap to release, but as bored in from the second side, and started cutting, the lean was too much, and it started to fall. I kept the saw wide open and made as much of the back cut as possible while it fell. As much lean as it had, and as hollow as it was, I'm surprised it stood this long on it's own, but that two inches or so of good wood was pretty stable. The hinge held until one of the leaders hit another tree, and it rolled off to the second side. All in all, very controlled considering how little tree was still there. The ratchetstrap was a big deal. Without it, I think It would have been very dangerous to be anywhere near the base. Thanks for the advice given, I have been keeping the kids away from this thing for quite a while now, and I no longer have to worry about it. View attachment 228440View attachment 228441View attachment 228442View attachment 228443View attachment 228444
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Hollow as can be!View attachment 228445
Wish I could remember how to make the pics show up without clicking them...:bang:
Hollow as can be!View attachment 228445
Wish I could remember how to make the pics show up without clicking them...:bang:
