Poll: What model for the next AS build off??

[edisto]

I'm still on the case mang... Not by a long shot. I'm about half a tick from going back through this thread and ditching the BS posts.

Gary

Here's the other half:

 

[Simonizer]

You proved my point right there with bad math. How many average working class guy who have bills will be able to pay for a saw to be shipped off and worked on then pay for it to be shipped back with little if any guarantee of a warranty.

About 150-200 a year are sent to me under these exact conditions. If you can't afford that I would suspect you have chosen the wrong occupation for your skill level. Every faller I deal with runs a modded saw. They make $550.00 a day based on a 6 hr work day. In camp they also get a $70.00 a day living out allowance. There is some math for you.

 

[Chris J.]

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then do not report anymore posts to moderators. You bring it on yourself....

Gary

So in addition to being ignorant and/or a troll, HILLBILLYREDNEC is a thin-skinned whiney-ass tattletale.

 

[edisto]

About 150-200 a year are sent to me under these exact conditions. If you can't afford that I would suspect you have chosen the wrong occupation for your skill level.

Calls a spade a spade don't he?


Wish it would let me rep you.

 

[HILLBILLYREDNEC]

I have had issue with the search function on here like alot of people. The basic work saw porting wild card is regional build specs. So if this is a work saw then it should be 70cc class. Simple and easy modification done with hand tools would be a easier build to follow then a power tool build.

 

[little possum]

Well in that case you need to buy some quality files. Round, flat-rectangle, triangle. In various sizes as well. And then you will need sandpaper in various grits.
But the math and measurements will be the same no matter what you use. Start a thread, and somebody might help you out. Maybe
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/119774.htm
Evans 066
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/121972.htm
056 Kid, he got a lot of help
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/28857-2.htm
Gypo
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/89498.htm
Brmorgan
Blsnelling did a couple good walk throughs.

 

[Hedgerow]

Calls a spade a spade don't he?


Wish it would let me rep you.

I got him for ya...

 

[HILLBILLYREDNEC]

Well in that case you need to buy some quality files. Round, flat-rectangle, triangle. In various sizes as well. And then you will need sandpaper in various grits.
But the math and measurements will be the same no matter what you use. Start a thread, and somebody might help you out. Maybe
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/119774.htm
Evans 066
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/121972.htm
056 Kid, he got a lot of help
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/28857-2.htm
Gypo
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/89498.htm
Brmorgan
Blsnelling did a couple good walk throughs.

Your the first person to acutaul show the info needed:msp_thumbup:

 

[teatersroad]

Well, risking alienation here. HBRN chose the wrong thread and method to go dissing port work,, however. Not all good loggers port their saws, and not everyone that ports their saw is a good logger. This forum does lean to the 'ToolTown' mentality of hopping up whatever runs, and many do it well. However, time saved in the workplace is all about working hard, working smart, and having the right tool for the job. The right tool for some may well be a stocker saw. And the need for ultimate horsepower by the occasional sawyer..is dubious. Some of my saws are ported, and I'm glad for it; but I know some stand up loggers that wouldn't bother with port work. These are folks I hold in pretty high regard, and make their living in the woods.

The motivation for hopping up saws are many, and all of them just. It does not however make you wise, and to choose not to does not make you a fool.

 

[edisto]

The motivation for hopping up saws are many, and all of them just. It does not however make you wise, and to choose not to does not make you a fool.

Absolutely. I think the designation as foolish was based upon evidence other than his view of porting. Or, at least, his initial view. I'm getting a little confused...

 

[HILLBILLYREDNEC]

Well, risking alienation here. HBRN chose the wrong thread and method to go dissing port work,, however. Not all good loggers port their saws, and not everyone that ports their saw is a good logger. This forum does lean to the 'ToolTown' mentality of hopping up whatever runs, and many do it well. However, time saved in the workplace is all about working hard, working smart, and having the right tool for the job. The right tool for some may well be a stocker saw. And the need for ultimate horsepower by the occasional sawyer..is dubious. Some of my saws are ported, and I'm glad for it; but I know some stand up loggers that wouldn't bother with port work. These are folks I hold in pretty high regard, and make their living in the woods.

The motivation for hopping up saws are many, and all of them just. It does not however make you wise, and to choose not to does not make you a fool.

I never said porting was bad, it is not option for some people,some do not have money or the knowledge, also some people can afford to risk the only saw . This poll is about work saw build off . Simple mods can be done cheaper and be done with limited tool. Taking a stock saw and improving the performance simply and easily is more interesting then how much a porting job can produce speed. I have watched hours of hoped up saws. Yes porting does make the saw faster, but a few simple mods to a stock saw can achieve a decent level of improvement.The biggest saw improvement i have found is learning different ways to do chain sharpening to gain speed and efficiency.

 

[AUSSIE1]

Hillbilly's rep "A"s are now full!

With so many on here contributing with interesting input yet to get of the first line with at least double the amount of posts gives you bit of an indication doesn't it?

 

[promac850]

Work saw is one used daily to make money. And the fallers I know who still do falling use stock saws with muffler mods, some do use Vstacks. So if this is a work saw then the best two are the MS 440 and or The 372

Bah, screw those. (if I had one of those two, it'd be a 372...) I'll run my works ported Pro Mac 850 every time I gotta buck or cut a tree down, if the landscaping job pulls through. I've already got a part time job turning wrenches on cars, and I learned a lot there already.

Shut up and go dig for the Porting 101 thread... I used that information to port my 850, as well as Stinkbait's Super Pro 81 thread.

If you find that thread, and post a link to it, then good...

Otherwise, GTFO.

 

[paccity]

I still think the work saw build is the way to go. Kinda like a show and tell of how and what to do for sawyers on a budget. To many of the saws built on here are worthless for work because they are over built and would fail to perform in the real world, this aint Cookie cutter fairytale land yaz know. I am always looking for ways to improve the standard off the shelf work saw. I see porting as no value in the woods, to much risk of it failing at the wrong time.

hbrn' you say that porting is not bad? you said it right here? :msp_wink: and as not having a place in the wood's
? the one saw i have with the most hours on it is the l&l teddy ported 066. ported or not they all work , ported a little more efficiant. ....... why am i even saying this.

 

[CentaurG2]

Sweet Jesus, who left the door unlock on the old aged home again?? Thought we all got out of “Chainsaw Viagra” on the last one of these threads.

Bottom line gentlemen, no pros around my area run modified saws. I wonder why?? Yea I know, my view is too narrow, I need to get out more and veggimite enhancement blab , blab, blab. Whatever.

So you can’t make quota running a stock saw and you gots to fall back on $350+ for “enhancement” cuz you need it to perform?? Might be time to start thinking about another career?? Perhaps you could try porting saws?? Yea, like that’s profitable. Let me count the number of chainsaws porters I know of in my area. Oppps..None available. I wonder why??? Must all be out “portin” scags and exmarks for the the lescos.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but them the facts. It’s a piss poor carpenter who blames his tools. I wonder if that applies to sawyers and fellers??

 

[HILLBILLYREDNEC]

hbrn' you say that porting is not bad? you said it right here? :msp_wink:

You need to re read the last line, I said I see no value for porting in the woods, did not say it was bad, not really good idea in the woods. I do not want to be falling a tree and have a ported saw fail on me, seen it once not a pretty scene, it about killed the faller. A work saw should be 100% reliable and have nothing done to it to that could cause it to fail.

 

[joatmon]

Absolutely. I think the designation as foolish was based upon evidence other than his view of porting. Or, at least, his initial view. I'm getting a little confused...

Ed ... Life outside the joint ain't easy. Freedom's just another word for "I'm getting a little confused". ~ Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster, with joat's assistance.

 

[paccity]

mine has'nt ? and won't fail any faster than a stock one.

 

[tlandrum]

no one said that they needed a ported saw to make quota, they have said they run ported saws becouse it makes there job easier and adds to the total daily quota aka makes them a little extra money for the same time spent. in turn porting pays for itself and then starts making you more money. i dont know of any simpler way to put it.

 

[edisto]

Ed ... Life outside the joint ain't easy. Freedom's just another word for "I'm getting a little confused". ~ Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster, with joat's assistance.

Life was more simple being married to the man with the most cigarettes...