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Here's another thought I had.........

Since it now seems to be okay(based off of this thread still being intact) to post failed modified saws by former Sponsors, doesn't that in turn "green light" the opportunity for other disgruntled folks to air their grievances, real or imagined on the open forums?
Seems like kind of a "Pandora's Box" to me, but I'm not clear what is considered protocol, since the abolishment of Member Sponsors.
@Marshy, @nk14zp, @Darin, @TonyK?
 
Here's another thought I had.........

Since it now seems to be okay(based off of this thread still being intact) to post failed modified saws by former Sponsors, doesn't that in turn "green light" the opportunity for other disgruntled folks to air their grievances, real or imagined on the open forums?
Seems like kind of a "Pandora's Box" to me, but I'm not clear what is considered protocol, since the abolishment of Member Sponsors.
@Marshy, @nk14zp, @Darin, @TonyK?
In the limited time I've been here there have been similar instances that have esculated out of control and threads were locked. Because of that behavior they didnt live long but it was never against the rules to create a thread like this AFAIK... it was definetly frowned upon though. AND in this case, who ends up looking like the fool? I have my own opinion but its irrelevant.
 
Here's another thought I had.........

Since it now seems to be okay(based off of this thread still being intact) to post failed modified saws by former Sponsors, doesn't that in turn "green light" the opportunity for other disgruntled folks to air their grievances, real or imagined on the open forums?
Seems like kind of a "Pandora's Box" to me, but I'm not clear what is considered protocol, since the abolishment of Member Sponsors.
?

I had a ex sponsor :buttkick: from here steal a 2 piece head off my 5ci racesaw and switched a slower head on it. Does that count. ;)


PM's for the pos that did it. :dumb:
 
Here's another thought I had.........

Since it now seems to be okay(based off of this thread still being intact) to post failed modified saws by former Sponsors, doesn't that in turn "green light" the opportunity for other disgruntled folks to air their grievances, real or imagined on the open forums?
Seems like kind of a "Pandora's Box" to me, but I'm not clear what is considered protocol, since the abolishment of Member Sponsors.
@Marshy, @nk14zp, @Darin, @TonyK?
I think airing grievances is fine(If normal paths to resolve have been attempted) as long as it's kept civil.
 
warranty issues aside, I think 'the customer' got one _ _ _ _ of a good deal!!!!

$700 new for the powerhead, and taken apart and modified - out the door for a lousy $200.00 additonal! :confused: if the modifier is a specialist on this saw then its only fair to assume he dosen't send out his work with junk and crud still in the transfer ports... the scratches came from somewhere, but the stains on the outside of the cyl base say more than 4 hrs to me. but of course, i suppose we have to go with the 4 hrs.

take the saw apart, pop the cyl... set up and machine the cyl base... clean out the majority of casting flash in 1) bottom transfers b) inake port c) exhaust port d) cut cyl transfer + cut the base and set the squish... clean it all up and then reassemble it... run it and tune it... for a lousy $200.00!!! :rolleyes: are you kidding me? I read this thread as there just ain't a lot of $$ in saw porting... who knows what happened once the customer got ahold of it... ? I bet the mfgr of this saw does not see very many warranty calls on main bearings... on a new saw? neglect, or abuse maybe but not OE assembly ~ not on main bearings!!

now... before anyone chooses to bash me or my post... just know... I am very exp'd in modifying and porting air metering devices for internal combustion engines... computer controlled and non. 2-stoke some, 4-cycle a zillion and then some. I have done at least, several thousand! in fact, I hold a US Patent for specialized designs in this field to improve bottom end torque, etc.. ie, specialized porting. when it comes to sanding, filing and scraping [facetious for porting] aluminum, I have been there and done that!! I agree the quality of work is rough by porter's standards, but for $40.00 or $50.00 worth of putting a flute to it and knowing where to put it... its more than a good value! the

Customer got a bargain!!!

:sucks:

ps: I am still curious as to why the piston shows exhaust trax opposite of the arrow on crown. please consider a PM to me if u don't want to post it here...
Don't forget about all the time put in for R&D that the builder did.
Also the port timing can be changed by grinding on the piston.
 
I think airing grievances is fine(If normal paths to resolve have been attempted) as long as it's kept civil.
You see, here is where I cant stomache whats being written

I KNOW of at least one guy who was keeping everything civil (on ALL SITES), so civil that this guy didnt even post something, and still got banned.

AS ran on what they thought was a tipoff VIA a "heads up" from a shamefull individual

Complaints were registered and answers were given, yet posts on several sites contradicted just about everything that was being written by the AS moderators

Darins advice: just deal with it

So - you spout your spinnable diatribe and we just have to deal with it.
Collateral damage, I guess.
Piles of steamy dung is what it really is.
Dont think for one second that dudes dont know the truth

You think I am wrong ?
Prove me wrong !!
Point me to the post(s) that got me banned on Christmas Eve
 
You see, here is where I cant stomache whats being written

I KNOW of at least one guy who was keeping everything civil (on ALL SITES), so civil that this guy didnt even post something, and still got banned.

AS ran on what they thought was a tipoff VIA a "heads up" from a shamefull individual

Complaints were registered and answers were given, yet posts on several sites contradicted just about everything that was being written by the AS moderators

Darins advice: just deal with it

So - you spout your spinnable diatribe and we just have to deal with it.
Collateral damage, I guess.
Piles of steamy dung is what it really is.
Dont think for one second that dudes dont know the truth

You think I am wrong ?
Prove me wrong !!
Point me to the post(s) that got me banned on Christmas Eve
The matter you are talking about I also disagree with what happened and how it was handled.
 
The matter you are talking about I also disagree with what happened and how it was handled.

well zp .........
Thank you.

Believe it or not, thats the first time someone has admitted to the truth in this matter.
Not that its going to get me anywhere, but I do feel somewhat better now.

Again, thank you
 
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So - you spout your spinnable diatribe and we just have to deal with it.
Collateral damage, I guess.
Piles of steamy dung is what it really is.
Dont think for one second that dudes dont know the truth

You think I am wrong ?
Prove me wrong !!
Point me to the post(s) that got me banned on Christmas Eve

You have a selective sense of smell when it comes to dung.

Somebody gets their vajaja hurt by a short term ban and they won't ever come back and then we get to hear about it forever, on multiple forums. Sucks.

Get over it.
 
Need a big baby winer forum for those who get butt hurt easy by things ppl say. Sounds like someone is trying to take away the freedom of speech or type. Ppl can **** talk or dog me all they want and il make em more mad with a smile as my response. The real butt hurt is doing a hot wings challenge. If you can dish it out you better be able to take it back as hard or harder.
 
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