Ginger or Mary Ann...........
John Riggins vs. Marshall Faulk
440 for me.
My crew has two. 1 with lite muffler mod, etc.
1 was built by MasterMind - stuffed a 460 top & ported it out. Awesome
I vote for the 440
Ginger or Mary Ann...........
I was fortunate enough to be in the McGrath- Carmichael genre
I was more like the Hannah - Howerton era. Took a blast on my '02 YZ250 today - it is a total freak. Walks the 450's on the straights. Buddies of mine have set theirs up just like mine after riding it (Pro Circuit Works pipe and shorty silencer, Delta Force reed cage), and not one of them is within 15% of mine. Hope I never blow it up, it really is a bad ride.
I'd take the 441R C-M (and in fact did). Just a great saw to use.
Couldn't of said it better!! I met Hannah 7 years ago, I ran Michael Andretti Powersports in Selinsgrove PA for a number of years. Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki. Sorry to derail nowadays I just rip on my saws Mtronic 441.
I was fortunate enough to be in the McGrath- Carmichael genre
i know they have been making thd 440 a long time. i like the old stuff that why im leaning towards the 440. im not shure about electronic stuff yet, i want something i know wiil work and depend on when i need it,
I had a 441, and still have the 440. Although some have had good luck with them, I could never warm up to the 441. I hear that the new 441C-M is more powerful than the 440, and I believe this. The 440 is light and handy, and balances well. Give it a dual port muffler, and it will wake up a bit more. Btw, except for a 7900, all of my 70cc plus saws have wrap bars on them. That's the way they come here.
My 2 cents - the 441 is a first generation design, and is bulkier, heavier, and more complex than it needs to be. It sounds like Stihl may have worked some of the kinks out of the design, but I would not buy another one. They are not popular around here, and the logging shops that I know of sell very few. There is a reason for this.
I think that the 440/460 is a sturdier and more reliable design than the 441. This is more important to loggers, for example, in the PNW and Western Canada who work in very remote areas with greatly varying weather, altitude, etc., than to guys clearing lots and farms in the midwest. The 441 C-M could be a step in the right direction, but I have no experience with one. I was in the largest logging supply store in the PNW last week. They have multiples of every pro Stihl and Husky made on the shelf, except the 441 C-M. They had 1 non C-M 441. For me, I much prefer the no longer available 75cc Husky 372 XPW to the 441, and bought a few of those while I could. I want to try one of the newer 372's with the strato motor, but don't need one yet.
Back to your question. Both saws (440 and 441) will pull a 25" bar with ease. The 441 is more comfortable to use, and if you are just bucking in the backyard might serve you better. The 440 is much handier to use, and lighter to carry around. It is pretty easy to get parts for either. Can you demo each and see which one feels better? If I had to get one of the two, I would buy a 440, and wait for Stihl to improve the 441 design, at least for now. If I wanted more power than the 440, I'd step to a 460, or more likely a Husky 390.
Good luck
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