I'm not taking sides in the issue, but it is pretty easy to see why the saw MM posted weighs more than the one Young posted. One is immaculate and one looks like it came out of the woods. I've taken enough saws apart to know that you can get a few ounces of crud built up around the base of the cylinder and under the chain cover. Stihl's spec's show 14.6 lbs dry, I'd say they are pretty dang close. To get to the point of where this has gone over a few ounces one way or the other is outright ludicrous and crosses the line of sensibility. I've been as tough on Brad as anyone in the past, but by golly I sure don't see anything out of line that has gone on in public forum. To accuse someone of lying about a photo they didn't even originally post is way off base.
I for one could care less that a 681/7900 has a better power to weight ratio than a 460, that's always been pretty evident. The 681/7900 is a great saw, however there will never be a 1/10 of them sold compared to the 046/460.
A new saw out of the box is the only way to accurately compare weight, same set of scales, I can guarantee my "used" saws will always weigh more than a new one due to the build up of debris in the flywheel cover/behind the muffler/base of the cylinder/under the chain cover and in all the little crooks and crevices. To not acknowledge that and turn this thread it to a hate spewing/personal attack/agenda thread just crosses the line of sensibility.
Good lord, it's worse than a teenage boy, "my pecker is bigger than your pecker". Who really cares, I just hate to see a person make an unnecessecary azz out of themselves. Might as well plan on this thread being deleted due to the personal threats.