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Took a few weeks off to try and let my shoulder heal after an injury last month. Decided to head overseas and relax a bit, get some dental work done too. Ended up in the philipines in Cebu and the place kinda blew me away. I wasn't aware of the level of poverty there, and it took a few days to adjust but once I did I realized how happy everyone was too.

Had a pretty good old time getting drenched on typhoons, riding motorbikes round without helmets and generally enjoying some of the civil liberties that we've let slide here in Australia. People do everything by hand over there, it's kind of impressive

Saw these guys doing some tree work. They make about $4-$5/day for a 10 hour day, 6 days a week. Needless to say there's no choppers or chainsaws. They worked from ladders, which they made at the job site with bamboo and twine. They did the work with blunt machetes.

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There is literally no waste. There's not much fuel or food available here, so everything is burnt. Not many people have gas, so most cool on charcoal. If you can't afford charcoal then you burn whatever waste products and scrap you can find... Fruit peels, rubbish, scraps of timber, coconut husks etc. that stuff doesn't burn hot and slow like charcoal, so it doesn't do a great job of cooking your food but it kind of warms it up.

Thankfully the dental surgeons were better trained than the tree sugeons, the periodontist I saw had 6 years study and NYU. She did a very professional tidy job, far better than my local dentist and the bill for all the work came up to a little under $800 compared with about $6k at my local. She was slightly embarrassed at how large the bill was, needless to say I tipped her and left with a smile.

Everywhere I went I saw people working, even kids. Saw kids as young as 4 splitting firewood bare footie with machetes as big as they were! I stopped to talk to these 3 boys in the mountains, aged 8, 10 and 11. They are digging sand and gravel out of the river which they then separate with a screen and put into bags weighing about 100lbs. They sell it to local builders for use in concrete, and they get about 25c per bag. The three of them work together to drag the heavy bags up the bank to the road.

They use the money to help pay for their schooling and general living expenses. Like most people in the countryside they were enthusiastic, happy and full of energy and smiles. They felt their life was pretty good "we can get money for free easily any time, we just come here and get it!". I helped them dig a few bags and they were impressed I can carry a whole bag by myself "oh you are strong! You can make a lot of money here!". They did seem slightly worried that I would hang around and use their clever business idea to make myself rich by digging, so they were relieved when I left.

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Unfortunately the shoulder never came good so I'm off to see some specialists. Initial feedback says it may be a torn rotator cuff and need surgery which I hope not.
 
Haha... Yeah it wasn't exactly a "holiday". I had to have a couple weeks off anyway for my shoulder and I'd been putting off the dental work for a long time cause I'm **** scared of dentists. The relaxing part for me was riding round, seeing how people do things there and how they live their life, sleeping in, having a few beers at night, went out on some boats too.

Overall I liked the place though the food made me real sick. I guess you'd get used to it if you lived there. I can see why a lot of guys retire there... You can't get a house in Sydney for less than a million dollars now, and the cost of everything is just so high here. Ina country where many people survive in $2/day, a retirement pension goes a long way. You can buy a house there for $25k, or a serious mansion for $100k. You can have a real good life for $1000/month. You can barely get enough to eat on that kind of income in Australia.
 
I thought I was coming down with a bad case of Lumpia last month, but thankfully it turned out to be just a cold.
Good to hear you're still thriving, Shaun!
 
Wow Imagineero, just this post alone makes a return visit to AS worthwhile for me.

Have yu seen the vid of the old 65 year old coconut plantation climber fakin the camera out?

Dude's got vines tied round his ankles, vines round his wrists, up 60 feet or so with a machete/cleaver harvesting.

Then burns down the dang Palm so fast everyone thinks he's fallen!

Truth is he's hiding on the far side of the base, hail n hearty, laughing his 65 year old azz off!

I envy you your travels mate! No doubt.

jomoco
 
Unfortunately the shoulder never came good so I'm off to see some specialists. Initial feedback says it may be a torn rotator cuff and need surgery which I hope not.

:( sorry bout that cobber hope you find a fix,, i had lingering RC twang for a few years it held back my surfing swiming and just this June is twisted it again dragin ssideways limbs too big. I not found any miracle cure just keep off it and apply some phsyio but yours sounds much worse


Dentist OS, your brave I hate em too
 
Yeah I tried Balut but didn't really enjoy the texture though the taste was ok. I'd tried the same thing in Korea about 15 years ago. I tend to just eat whatever the locals eat when I travel and im not squeamish so I've had insects, bugs, spiders, horse, dolphin, dog, the innards of most animals etc.

The local diet seemed to consist of pork pork pork chicken rice and ice cream with scarcely a vegetable to be seen. No idea how the girls stay so skinny. There's no refrigeration and the water is unfit for drinking, so it's not the most sanitary meal you'll have. Once that meat has been sitting on a table above an open sewer for a couple days in the heat and humidity with nothing to keep the flies off it, even the smell can be enough to make you sick.to make matters worse it tends to be cooked in bulk in the mornings rather than to order, then served at room temperature to conserve fuel. I ate most things but not the seafood. I could see myself mainly cooking at home if I lived there.

It's a land of small ladies. Average height/weight was about 4'11 and 75lbs though I saw plenty of women as small as 4'6 and 60lbs. Being 6'3 and 240 it wasn't hard to find me in a crowd. They were friendly and everyone speaks English there, but I have to say the look of the girls did nothing for me. They just look like little kids, even the middle aged ones.
 
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The most people I saw on a bike while there was 6. The bikes have about 2hp. In the country some guys extend the seat so they can carry up to 10 people.

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I was pretty impressed with my own riding skills for getting over this mountain pass, which eventually turned to a single dirt track and then not even a track, just loose rocks and scree alongside a steep cliff. My joy was short lived at the summit as a kid who looked about 12 passed me on a smaller bike with 4 people and a 110lb bag of rice. Then a guy passed him on a bike carrying 700bs of potatoes with two people sitting on top of the potatoes. I'm not kidding. They were just on their way home like every other day.

It's incredible how people get by with so little. A lot of work gets done in the street. Saw a guy making license plates out of scrap aluminum with a hammer and some rocks. Many of them improvise tools from tree limbs or whatever. Stopped to talk with some of the mountain kids, they don't have sewerage, running water or electricity. They don't have toys either, let alone phones or computers. Their favorite games? Rolling a tyre along the ground, and dragging each other through a field on a piece of sheet metal.
 
They build ladders onsite for tree work in Hong Kong too; they actually had to pass a law to allow climbing with rope and saddle!

my next door neighbor's Filipino; nice lady. Good luck with the shoulder--heavy physio and strengthening of opposing muscles/tissues can keep you clear of the knife. My first shoulder operation helped a lot; the 2nd did not.
 
any tips for exercises? It's my right arm, I still have strength but can't reach. I'm also having a hard time with anything above shoulder height. It's not too bad in the morning (pain killers) but by lunch time there's no way I'm scratching my head with my right hand. I've adjusted my climbing style to minimize use of the right arm and the way i use the saw...but this isn't going away so I need to do something to improve it. Trying to get a referral from my gp this week for scans or whatever. I'm only 36 and would like to keep climbing for another 2-3 years. The injury came from getting pulled out of a tree by a crane. Was generally healthy and strong prior to that, I always have tried to climb in a way that I have good work positioning, work close to my body and try to be smooth and not put more stress than necessary in my joints. Try to eat well and get enough sleep too which I think helps.
 
any tips for exercises?

nuthin more than a dr google search can find all pretty basic stuff just sort one that suits and add time to heal plus theres all types of products pills & lotions will make claims to help, spend if you think worthy thou many dont do squat

strange RC is,, i can do 30 push ups easy but not clip down my seat belt buckle with out a twang in the shoulder


edit ah the rubber elastic band side pull seemed to work for me and could do it standing or sitting

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=rotator cuff exercises&biw=1242&bih=585&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=U2gvVLznJZCA8QXznYD4BA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ
 
Boring, but effective. Also try hanging from a pull-up bar.

Age 36 and want 2-3 more years? Not much to ask. I had my RC operated on when i was 61 and 3 years later shoulder is useable as ever.
 
image.jpg My rotator cuff injury from 20 years ago is all calcified bulging and disgusting, but I can still do technical removals with no crane.
 
Heading back over at christmas, going to buy a bike rather than rent since I couldnt get one to rent. To make this somewhat tree related;

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A buddy took this a few days ago. Super typhoon Ruby is hovering off the coast and may (hopefully) swing north or it might head west and devastate the country. If it hits, it may well be worse than Yolanda which virtually levelled Tacloban, wiping out every tree, house and shelter in the region;

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Gusts are expected to hit upwards of 160 knots (300km/h) and if it does make landfall is expected to continue at full force for around 24 hours compared to Yolanda which was all done in around 6 hours leaving a death toll of 6,300 and many people still recovering even now more than a year later.

Locals are going round stripping every branch and leaf off every tree they can, with those who can afford to stocking up on gas, food, water and batteries. Trees flying into the side of your tin shack at 300km/h isn't pretty. Hopes and prayers for all those out there.
 
here a go i should do this myself again but my current RC just a twinge so hoping it will fade soon or before summer



have nice trip imagieerio hope that typhoon goes the other way so you dont need to rent a chain saw on holidays

ah my LHS RC almost fixed as been i swimming & punch bag boxing past few weeks while pulling that bit of rubber
 
Looks like some trees were not wiped out--lessons for how to prune to avoid damage next time?
 
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