treeman82
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I believe I've mentioned on here in the past that I've been doing some work for a bunch of low lives who have their own tree company. The only reason why I do it is because my landlord asked me to as a favor to him... this is his son in law's company, and the son in law has a partner. So anyway, I've been on some real nightmares with them. A job last year that I got sucked into should have been bid at close to 10K, they did it for just under 5K.
So last week they had a job to do, and they showed it to me ahead of time. The son in law had bid it alone at 3K for 4 removals and 2 prunes... wood stayed as it layed, but the brush had to be chipped and chips had to go. I wouldn't have bid it due to location, however I figured the job to be worth about 5K as it was set up. The partner didn't go to look at the job when it was bid because he was hungover and didn't want to get out of bed. There were 2 oaks behind the house that had to be lowered, and the brush had to be cut up small enough to drag through some flower gardens to get to the chipper about 150' away. Then there was a BS ash tree that could have been either pulled over, or lowered whole from another tree. There was a big pignut hickory which had to be lowered, wood and all... because it was over the septic tank / system. 1 big black oak needed 3 branches removed that had to be lowered, and 1 sugar maple over the wires and house and driveway had to be pruned as well... off the wires and thinned.
Well they called the lady in advance to say that we would be there the following day. She in turn said that she only wanted to do the 2 oak trees out back, and leave the rest for another time. Well the son in law said alright, $1,200 for the 2 oaks and we can blow the chips into the woods... So the 3 of us show up in the morning around 9:00 for various reasons. The drunk partner says that the 2 oaks are worth far more than $1,200 with the brush being chipped. So the lady comes out who has never met the drunk before, and he says to her that the job isn't good for them to do at $1,200. However for $1,200 we will put them on the ground and drag all the brush into the woods. So end of the day we walked away with 2 trees on the ground, and SOME of the brush dragged into the woods... really nasty mess left behind.
First off I don't understand how these guys keep getting work when they leave the jobs like this.
Second, I guess the drunk has a HUGE set on him for saying that to the lady... first the price is low, and after some BS line it's a rip off... I mean I was standing there listening to the conversation and figured we wouldn't be working that day.
So last week they had a job to do, and they showed it to me ahead of time. The son in law had bid it alone at 3K for 4 removals and 2 prunes... wood stayed as it layed, but the brush had to be chipped and chips had to go. I wouldn't have bid it due to location, however I figured the job to be worth about 5K as it was set up. The partner didn't go to look at the job when it was bid because he was hungover and didn't want to get out of bed. There were 2 oaks behind the house that had to be lowered, and the brush had to be cut up small enough to drag through some flower gardens to get to the chipper about 150' away. Then there was a BS ash tree that could have been either pulled over, or lowered whole from another tree. There was a big pignut hickory which had to be lowered, wood and all... because it was over the septic tank / system. 1 big black oak needed 3 branches removed that had to be lowered, and 1 sugar maple over the wires and house and driveway had to be pruned as well... off the wires and thinned.
Well they called the lady in advance to say that we would be there the following day. She in turn said that she only wanted to do the 2 oak trees out back, and leave the rest for another time. Well the son in law said alright, $1,200 for the 2 oaks and we can blow the chips into the woods... So the 3 of us show up in the morning around 9:00 for various reasons. The drunk partner says that the 2 oaks are worth far more than $1,200 with the brush being chipped. So the lady comes out who has never met the drunk before, and he says to her that the job isn't good for them to do at $1,200. However for $1,200 we will put them on the ground and drag all the brush into the woods. So end of the day we walked away with 2 trees on the ground, and SOME of the brush dragged into the woods... really nasty mess left behind.
First off I don't understand how these guys keep getting work when they leave the jobs like this.
Second, I guess the drunk has a HUGE set on him for saying that to the lady... first the price is low, and after some BS line it's a rip off... I mean I was standing there listening to the conversation and figured we wouldn't be working that day.
