STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
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MacLaren
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SawTroll
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LOL, dude you really like to see Husqvarna get hurt dont ya?
It also is about you being about the same way regarding Stihl!
Doug Fir
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As SawTroll notes the official weights are up a bit. Here are the new weights (PHO):
555 and 560XP: 12.3 lbs (5.6 kg)
562XP: 12.5 lbs (5.7 kg)
The "G" variants:
560XPG: 12.8 lbs (5.8 kg)
562XPG: 13 lbs (5.9 kg)
A couple of folks have weighed their 555s and they came up with 11.9 and 12.0 lbs. Has Husqvarna made a change to the saws that increased the weight to 12.3 lbs? Or is the difference due to the use of inaccurate scales? Or perhaps Husqvarna is now overstating the weight of their saws to make up for their past behavior of understating their weight, in a bizarre attempt to recapture lost corporate karma.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Doug
555 and 560XP: 12.3 lbs (5.6 kg)
562XP: 12.5 lbs (5.7 kg)
The "G" variants:
560XPG: 12.8 lbs (5.8 kg)
562XPG: 13 lbs (5.9 kg)
A couple of folks have weighed their 555s and they came up with 11.9 and 12.0 lbs. Has Husqvarna made a change to the saws that increased the weight to 12.3 lbs? Or is the difference due to the use of inaccurate scales? Or perhaps Husqvarna is now overstating the weight of their saws to make up for their past behavior of understating their weight, in a bizarre attempt to recapture lost corporate karma.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Doug
MacLaren
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It also is about you being about the same way regarding Stihl!
No doubt Niko. Although you have a MS361 and I a MS660, BTW, I wouldnt take anything for. I just bought an 028AV Super as well.
Oh well, no biggie.....everyone has their opinion. Lord knows I have mine.:hmm3grin2orange:
Log Hogger
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They state 11.8 lb and 12.3 lb for the 555 and 562 XP on the American website, respectively. On the product page, the 562 XP has gained nearly 5 ounces, with a stated weight of 12.57 lb.
SawTroll
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I have had a feeling this would happen, since I read Spike60s impression of a 555 production saw vs. the 560xp pre-production saw that he had last year. They still are light for 60cc saws, and feel like really well-handling saws! :msp_smile:
MacLaren
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Well, I have ran the 555, and I have never seen such excellent power to weight ratio. Bear in mind that although the hp rating for the 555 is 4.3 it straight up spanked a broken in Husqvarna 357XP (4.4 hp) on its 1st tank. Husqvarna IMHO, has truly set a new standard for power to weight ratio. BTW, the 555 is a very well built saw that myself and mdavlee could see. Based upon the 555, I feel that whatever weight gain the 562XP recieves the power will more than make up for it. It should be an incredibly strong saw for its weight. The 555 surely is. I cant wait to see what Stihl will introduce.....
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sunfish
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LOL, dude you really like to see Husqvarna get hurt dont ya?
Well, someone had to take Y2K's place... :hmm3grin2orange:
sunfish
Fish Head
Well said, Niko...
STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
to be quite honest i reallly could care less. i just find it a bit amusing when grown men get their feathers in such a ruffle over 2 saws that are not even available.i really makes me no difference what saw a person likes/dislikes, it is afterall just a chainsaw. one thing is for sure though, when stihl does come out with a new model, it will be right the first time, and you will actually be able to purchase and use it, instead of just talk about it for 2 years. funny how the 562 is now all of the sudden a 13lb saw as well???????? my 362's sure did a good job this week-end!!!!!:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:LOL, dude you really like to see Husqvarna get hurt dont ya?
Log Hogger
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It's that wide strato power band with gobs of low end torque. A prime example of how peak hp comparisons can be misleading. I'm interested to see what a strato design does for the 346XP's successor. Husqvarna likes to best Stihl's hp specs for a given displacement class by 0.1 HP, so my bet is on a rating of 3.9 hp. But I also expect the 550XP to perform better than a 3.9 hp rating would suggest. My only concern, given the weight of the 562XP, is whether Husqvarna will be able to improve the weight on the 550XP compared to the 346XP. Of course it's as certain as a sunrise that they will market it as a sub-11 pound saw no matter what the weight is!
SawTroll
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The lack of a really good top end performance and accelleration/trigger responce is my concern with the first genaration "strato" saws - the low end torque has never been a concern! :msp_wink:
Here's the lowdown:
They are lighter than their competitors. Exact weight? Who cares, they're lighter.
They are more powerful than their competitors. Exact power? Who cares, they're more powerful.
No two scales are the same. Good luck finding someone that weighs their saw and has it come out to what the manufacturer's specs show. I've run both a 562xp and a 262xp. The 562 is the balls. Granted I have more time on the new saw than the older counterpart. The 262 is no slouch, it was a homerun hit in it's day. It still is. My experience is the 562 is better.
To the guys bashing the saw or teasing or ribbing or poking fun - especially the ones making comments about the guys all whooped up about it and it's not even out yet ---- that's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it. Why don't you wait until it's out before you go on about it? You're no different, just on the other end of the stick.
They are lighter than their competitors. Exact weight? Who cares, they're lighter.
They are more powerful than their competitors. Exact power? Who cares, they're more powerful.
No two scales are the same. Good luck finding someone that weighs their saw and has it come out to what the manufacturer's specs show. I've run both a 562xp and a 262xp. The 562 is the balls. Granted I have more time on the new saw than the older counterpart. The 262 is no slouch, it was a homerun hit in it's day. It still is. My experience is the 562 is better.
To the guys bashing the saw or teasing or ribbing or poking fun - especially the ones making comments about the guys all whooped up about it and it's not even out yet ---- that's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it. Why don't you wait until it's out before you go on about it? You're no different, just on the other end of the stick.
Doug Fir
ArboristSite Operative
Not quite. According to the new official specs it is only the G-version of the saw that is 13 pounds. The standard (large-mount) 562XP is now "all of a sudden" a 12.5 lb saw, and the small-mount variant (560XP) is now 12.3 pounds.
Enjoy your 362--it's a great saw!
Doug
STIHLTHEDEERE
This is Koty
A Couple of Things
Weights
The 555 weighs 12 lbs even PHO dry. I weighed mine. On the same scale, my MS362 was just a hair over 13 lbs, also PHO dry. This are objective observations.
Here is my educated guess on the weight of the 562XP, based on the 362XP. The older 362XP had the small bar mount. Mine weighs 13 lbs even PHO dry. I used to have the newer 362XP with the large bar mount. That one weighed around 1/2 lb more. It would seem to follow that moving from a small mount to large mount on a like saw in the Husky range increases weight around 1/2 lb. Let's see where the 562XP winds up, but I would say there is a good chance that it will be around 12.5 lbs.
Incidentally, I weighed a 357XP that was PHO dry and it also came in at 13 lbs.
Power
The 555 is rated at 4.3hp, while the MS362 is at 4.6. I could not feel a difference power wise between them. The MS362 is fairly well worn in, and the 555 around 6 tanks through it. This is with both saws wearing 20" bars.
General
The MS362 is a fine, sturdy saw. It weighs too much for it's performance, but not by much. If you want a Stihl in the same weight range, spring for a 440. I look forward to the MS461, and will try one out when they emerge.
I like Stihl quality, and they have no bad pro saws in the lineup. That being said, I am running my 390XP and 372XPW a lot these days. They are more comfortable to run than 660/460 respectively, IMO. The 555 is the cat's meow. I like using it, and use it more now than the 346XP. My dealer has had no reported problems on them, and has sold a bunch. I hope Husky pulls it together on the 562XP, and I wish they'd import the 560XP. I will be on a trip this week and hope to see a 560XP in person:biggrin:
People who put either Stihl or Husky brands down (or even Dolmar for that matter) across the board, are just (at best), ill-informed. All of the three previously mentioned brands put out good saws. Stihl happens to be the best at sales and marketing, which doesn't automatically mean they sell the best saws in every category.
Just my opinion.......
Weights
The 555 weighs 12 lbs even PHO dry. I weighed mine. On the same scale, my MS362 was just a hair over 13 lbs, also PHO dry. This are objective observations.
Here is my educated guess on the weight of the 562XP, based on the 362XP. The older 362XP had the small bar mount. Mine weighs 13 lbs even PHO dry. I used to have the newer 362XP with the large bar mount. That one weighed around 1/2 lb more. It would seem to follow that moving from a small mount to large mount on a like saw in the Husky range increases weight around 1/2 lb. Let's see where the 562XP winds up, but I would say there is a good chance that it will be around 12.5 lbs.
Incidentally, I weighed a 357XP that was PHO dry and it also came in at 13 lbs.
Power
The 555 is rated at 4.3hp, while the MS362 is at 4.6. I could not feel a difference power wise between them. The MS362 is fairly well worn in, and the 555 around 6 tanks through it. This is with both saws wearing 20" bars.
General
The MS362 is a fine, sturdy saw. It weighs too much for it's performance, but not by much. If you want a Stihl in the same weight range, spring for a 440. I look forward to the MS461, and will try one out when they emerge.
I like Stihl quality, and they have no bad pro saws in the lineup. That being said, I am running my 390XP and 372XPW a lot these days. They are more comfortable to run than 660/460 respectively, IMO. The 555 is the cat's meow. I like using it, and use it more now than the 346XP. My dealer has had no reported problems on them, and has sold a bunch. I hope Husky pulls it together on the 562XP, and I wish they'd import the 560XP. I will be on a trip this week and hope to see a 560XP in person:biggrin:
People who put either Stihl or Husky brands down (or even Dolmar for that matter) across the board, are just (at best), ill-informed. All of the three previously mentioned brands put out good saws. Stihl happens to be the best at sales and marketing, which doesn't automatically mean they sell the best saws in every category.
Just my opinion.......
sunfish
Fish Head
And here you are right in the middle of it. :hmm3grin2orange:
'Grown men' can really blow almost everything out of proportion... :msp_tongue:
I'm really enjoying my ported 357xp right now and am not wanting a new saw at the moment... Just that I find all this interesting.
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All that? It's two things.
The MS362 is 13lbs. and 4.6HP
The 562XP is 12.X lbs. and 4.8HP
What else?
SawTroll
Information Collector
Yep, the 560xp now is listed as the MS361, that also is light for a 60cc saw - and still lighter than the venerable 262xp!
