Help! One saw to fit my needs!

[homelitejim]

I guess I should have been hiring out all my firewood cutting. Does that mean since I am a Professional driver that all you guys don't know crap about driving? Look at the plastic Echo chainsaws, better features than the plastic Stihl and Husky saws, and by God if you have the money get the best saw money can buy being a pro saw or not. Here is some Homeowners with their homeowner saws.

 

[stihl023/5]

Until you learn respect and get educated, I have all day...

During 1992--2007,* a total of 1,285 workers died while performing tree care and maintenance; 44% were trimming or pruning a tree when fatally injured.

Stats only for professional nearly 100 per year, home use non-professional not included.

Like I said, someone gets killed every day. :taped:

Facts are difficult... here's more...

The most common causes of death were being struck by or against an object (42% of deaths), most commonly a tree or branch; falls to a lower level (34%); and electrocutions (14%). Most of the decedents (57%) worked for small establishments with 10 or fewer employees. Employers, trade and worker associations, and policymakers should take additional steps to improve the safety of workers involved in tree care, such as providing formal training to workers and ensuring that personal protective equipment (e.g., fall protection equipment) is used properly.

Lets give a professional saw to my neighbor and watch the fun begin :smile2:

Most homeowners scare me when they run a weedeater, lets give them a Pro-Saw too FTW

Same things can happen to the ones who think they know everything too.

 

[Fifelaker]

Just a firewood hack here! First two saws I bought new were homielite 360 pro's (First burned up in a fire) the last saw I bought new was a Stihl MS440. I must make all my logger friends shake with fear when I fire that dangerous beast up.

 

[RUSHNBOBO]

I guess I should have been hiring out all my firewood cutting. Does that mean since I am a Professional driver that all you guys don't know crap about driving? Look at the plastic Echo chainsaws, better features than the plastic Stihl and Husky saws, and by God if you have the money get the best saw money can buy being a pro saw or not.

Awesome post, Jim...

Maybe the people at Stihl are all idiots too...

[occasional, commercial, pro] look em up

Not all Stihls and Huskies are pro saws [been that way for over 15 years] 021,023,025,029 etc. [not pro] reasonably priced saws for Hank the homeowner.

Thanx for your contribution, we are all smarter now.

 

[RUSHNBOBO]

Same things can happen to the ones who think they know everything too.

Hmmmm, does that mean you wish violence on me?

I've been hurt with a saw before, 3 times, all minor cuts. A occasional user might have been killed.

Good thing I'm awesome opcorn:

 

[Fifelaker]

wow this thread has seems to have gone off track a bit. There are valid points made both ways, but I think we have to keep in mind that "the average homeowner" isn't us. We are saw whores or we would have just bought our one Plastic saw and gone home and used it.

Well since your going to call names I prefer FLOOZIE. And as such I know alot of people not on here thet are not loggers but own pro saws. I guess I should sell all of my pro tools as I dont make my living with them! Oh wait, now the good guns have to go also as you have to be a pro to own a Rizinni.

 

[stihl023/5]

Well since your going to call names I prefer FLOOZIE. And as such I know alot of people not on here thet are not loggers but own pro saws. I guess I should sell all of my pro tools as I dont make my living with them! Oh wait, now the good guns have to go also as you have to be a pro to own a Rizinni.

Should I get rid of my Tanfoglio too?:msp_w00t:

 

[Fifelaker]

Should I get rid of my Tanfoglio too?:msp_w00t:

Are you a pro??

 

[Gologit]

Until you learn respect and get educated, I have all day...

During 1992--2007,* a total of 1,285 workers died while performing tree care and maintenance; 44% were trimming or pruning a tree when fatally injured.

Stats only for professional nearly 100 per year, home use non-professional not included.

Like I said, someone gets killed every day. :taped:

Facts are difficult... here's more...

The most common causes of death were being struck by or against an object (42% of deaths), most commonly a tree or branch; falls to a lower level (34%); and electrocutions (14%). Most of the decedents (57%) worked for small establishments with 10 or fewer employees. Employers, trade and worker associations, and policymakers should take additional steps to improve the safety of workers involved in tree care, such as providing formal training to workers and ensuring that personal protective equipment (e.g., fall protection equipment) is used properly.

Lets give a professional saw to my neighbor and watch the fun begin :smile2:

Most homeowners scare me when they run a weedeater, lets give them a Pro-Saw too FTW

Yes, facts are difficult...for some people. You said that someone gets killed by a saw every day. The statistics you quoted talked about injuries while a saw was being used...not injuries directly from the saw itself. Poor technique and poor judgement, the saw was just a contributing factor, not a cause.

You need to learn to be more accurate in your statements. Did you make a poor choice of words again or were you just trying to liven things up a little?


As far as learning respect goes...I always have a lot of respect for somebody who knows what he's doing...amateur or professional. I know some homeowners with professional grade saws that I trust enough to work with. They handle their saws just fine, safely and efficiently...and I'm not easy to please.
I also know some guys who fancy themselves professionals that might be better off in some other line of work. I'd trust them to run a skidder or maybe bump knots on the landing where somebody could keep a good eye on them but that's all.

 

[stihl023/5]

Are you a pro??

No just a hick or hack.:msp_rolleyes:

I can punch out a :msp_biggrin: face though.

 

[Gologit]

Damn, did I miss my chance to add to the West Coast snobbery?

There's always room for one more. Especially when that "one more" has a legitimate background as a faller.

 

[Fifelaker]

why?

My analogies to only pros should own pro saws.

 

[elanjoe]

why?

why not ?

 

[homelitejim]

Awesome post, Jim...

Maybe the people at Stihl are all idiots too...

[occasional, commercial, pro] look em up

Not all Stihls and Huskies are pro saws [been that way for over 15 years] 021,023,025,029 etc. [not pro] reasonably priced saws for Hank the homeowner.

Thanx for your contribution, we are all smarter now.

I did not say that anyone was an idiot, I was stating a fact that the homeowner Echo chainsaws have better features than the homeowner Stihl or Husky chainsaws and I not only looked it up I used each and every model. I have actually ran these saws not just read the flier. I have never said I knew everything, and I do not claim to be a teacher when it comes to a trail saw on a atv the Echo is hard to beat. Prove me wrong.

 

[thomas1]

This^^^ a homeowner doesn't need a pro 4-5 cube saw, period. Will it be faster in big wood? of course it will, so what. Buy the saw which meets to the cutting conditions you will see the most often. MS260 or 50cc saws are awesome in MOST situations you will encounter, [occasional brush clearing, firewood chores, falling the occasional tree to 20inch DBH]

We do pre-commercial thinning/timber-stand improvement where we literally fall hundreds of 6-12 inch diameter DBH trees per man day. The fastest combo we have found is a 50cc saw and a razor sharp .325 chain. A bigger saw slows you down do to weight/bulk, a smaller saw has negligible weight savings and is underpowered.

I am curious how you determine how big of a saw a homeowner needs? Just because you've never cut down a tree bigger than 12" doesn't mean that other people haven't, homeowner or not.

Until you learn respect and get educated, I have all day...

During 1992--2007,* a total of 1,285 workers died while performing tree care and maintenance; 44% were trimming or pruning a tree when fatally injured.

Stats only for professional nearly 100 per year, home use non-professional not included.

Like I said, someone gets killed every day. :taped:

Facts are difficult... here's more...

The most common causes of death were being struck by or against an object (42% of deaths), most commonly a tree or branch; falls to a lower level (34%); and electrocutions (14%). Most of the decedents (57%) worked for small establishments with 10 or fewer employees. Employers, trade and worker associations, and policymakers should take additional steps to improve the safety of workers involved in tree care, such as providing formal training to workers and ensuring that personal protective equipment (e.g., fall protection equipment) is used properly.

Lets give a professional saw to my neighbor and watch the fun begin :smile2:

Most homeowners scare me when they run a weedeater, lets give them a Pro-Saw too FTW

I see that you have a firm grasp of how to cherry pick statistics that support your lame argument. I notice that you are careful to never actually say that you've had a part in taking down a tree of any substantial size.

Perhaps you could quote statistics about how many people die on commercial fishing boats and then tell everyone how amateurs shouldn't go fishing?

 

[DSS]

So if the OP needs 80cc's to cut a few pine trees, is there a big enough saw made to cut 48" hardwood? I sometimes get stuff this big from a tree service and was wondering if I should try to cut them or if my attempts would be futile ending in embarrassment and shame.

And how many saws would I need? Is 38 enough?

 

[homelitejim]

I am curious how you determine how big of a saw a homeowner needs? Just because you've never cut down a tree bigger than 12" doesn't mean that other people haven't, homeowner or not.



I see that you have a firm grasp of how to cherry pick statistics that support your lame argument. I notice that you are careful to never actually say that you've had a part in taking down a tree of any substantial size.

Perhaps you could quote statistics about how many people die on commercial fishing boats and then tell everyone how amateurs shouldn't go fishing?

reminds me of a stinking lib and gun control.:msp_w00t:

 

[thomas1]

reminds me of a stinking lib and gun control.:msp_w00t:

He reminds me of stinking something. oop:

 

[thomas1]

So if the OP needs 80cc's to cut a few pine trees, is there a big enough saw made to cut 48" hardwood? I sometimes get stuff this big from a tree service and was wondering if I should try to cut them or if my attempts would be futile ending in embarrassment and shame.

And how many saws would I need? Is 38 enough?

Do you own your home?

 

[DSS]

Do you own your home?

I believe this to be a thinly veiled sexual come on, but its friday.

Yes I do.

And your mailbox is full, but 10-4