BangBang77
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Cheapest new saw that will handle a 25 inch bar
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Overkill338
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Ryan'smilling
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Yeah, those would all do the job. Personally I'd skip the Stihls. Don't get me wrong, I'm a stihl guy, but I'd want a 440/460/461 for what the OP is talking about. I'd forget about the 460 rancher too. There's just better saws in the price range.
My money-saving list would be:
Jonsered 2166
Echo 590
Dolmar 6100
My list if price weren't an issue would be:
Stihl 461 (not the most exciting, but reliable and parts are on main street when you need them)
Dolmar 7910
Husky 372
And yeah, ideally whichever one I ended up with would be ported, because for me, it goes a long way toward making firewood a lot more fun, and having fun is what it's all about.
BangBang77
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No worries. Just ribbing. Tried to put a smiley face in my post and can't seem to figure it out.
James Miller
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I run a 24 on my ported 590. It pulls it just fine. I picked up up a 7910 last weekend and it' a whole different animal with a 24. If you need the 24 a lot I agree with the folks that are saying you need a 70-80cc saw.
jr27236
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I concur on the 70's cc class it a perfect place to be powerhead wise to pull 20-28" bar with ease. I have a 576XP that made me sell 441 because I like it so much and in my opinion out ran and out cut the 441.
Making the occasional cut with a 25" bar buried in hardwood, yes a 60cc saw will do it slowly with the oiler turned up. Where I come from if I'm bucking 25" hardwood I grab a 90cc saw, I imagine cutting US species a 70cc saw will do the job with an oiler & AV to keep up. I couldn't think of a worse way to spend a day cutting 25-30" hardwood than with a 60cc saw in my hands.
Dph1256
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Try doing it with a 50cc farm boss. Lol
I was looking at horsepower ratings and some 70cc saws like the stihl 038 magnum, 365/2166 are listed at 4.8 horsepower and people say they will pull a 24 with ease. The top 60cc saws 362, 562, and the 6421 all rare at 4.7 horsepower. The question I was asking in a different way is that .1 horsepower nessary?
To each his own. I never have an issue buying direct from China. But I also don't mind having to fix tools that cheap. My rule always is, if your life or lively hood depends on it buy name brand, and I always judge the fail factor. Chinese wrenches suck most times unless they cost a good bit more than standard but Chinese power tools are typically right up to snuff and cheap enough that if it did suck you can just beat the piss out of it till its smoked and buy name brand the next time. But a home gamer will typically be satisfied with the nicer Chinese tools.
SawTroll
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I totally agree, particularly in hardwood - but as always it is a matter of user expectations. Also, a sharp chain is more important than minor differences in saw size/power.
Among the smaller saws mentioned here I believe the 6421 will do best (but have of course not tried them all) - and then you always have the option of putting a 7900 top end on it at some point.
SawTroll
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Max hp specs is just a part of it, far from the full story - so by itself .1 hp doesn't mean much.
Also, slightly different kinds of hp still are in use (it was much worse earlier), so it is best to look at the kW numbers, rather than the hp ones.
"Ryan has a good suggestion.....the 590 will have no problems with a 24/25 inch bar. I've seen guys cutting timber here with 28's all day long with no issues. It's the best bang for the buck out there!! There are plenty of other saws to choose from but all cost more and questionable in comparable performance."
The CS-590, 600P and 620P will do fine with a 24" bar. I run a 24" bar and occasionally a 28" on my 600P on occasion and it does fine with it. I still feel that all of those saws work best with a 20" bar, as I have all three here and even the more powerful CS-620PW grunts pretty hard when I put the 28" bar on it and "push" it some in hardwood.
Even with that said IF you want to run a 24" bar with great authority, you need to get into a 70cc class saw as mentioned. At the top of the pile is the Husqvarna 372XP, but they are pricey if/when you can find one that isn't slam worn out.
There are still a few decent 268/272XP's around and either one of those will run a 24" bar just fine, and even though they are an older design, parts support is still good for them........Cliff
The CS-590, 600P and 620P will do fine with a 24" bar. I run a 24" bar and occasionally a 28" on my 600P on occasion and it does fine with it. I still feel that all of those saws work best with a 20" bar, as I have all three here and even the more powerful CS-620PW grunts pretty hard when I put the 28" bar on it and "push" it some in hardwood.
Even with that said IF you want to run a 24" bar with great authority, you need to get into a 70cc class saw as mentioned. At the top of the pile is the Husqvarna 372XP, but they are pricey if/when you can find one that isn't slam worn out.
There are still a few decent 268/272XP's around and either one of those will run a 24" bar just fine, and even though they are an older design, parts support is still good for them........Cliff
Huskybill
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My son used his new 460 / 24” bar last weekend and he said it cut awesome with a chisel chain. He didn’t have the full skip chisel chain yet. The 460 was a tad over $500.
He had a wild thing before the 460 that’s a big jump up.
Have you thought about buying a used saw?
My 266SE used cost me $275 she looks mint.
He had a wild thing before the 460 that’s a big jump up.
Have you thought about buying a used saw?
My 266SE used cost me $275 she looks mint.
Dph1256
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I did buy a worn out 038 magnum last year. It has given me so many problems that I am very cautious about used saws
A 24" bar on any 60cc saw in hardwood is going to be lack luster. Get a 70cc saw.
Aftermarket appears like it is going to keep the 372 and some Stihl models around after OEM gives up on them. Something to keep in mind when looking at Dolmar and others when making a big seldom needed saw purchase. Makita is getting to be a burr to deal with since they canned the distributors and tried doing it themselves.
Huskybill
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I have a buddy who’s a Husqvarna gold dealer plus I worked for him splitting cases, rebuilding saws ect. I understand what your says it can be a pig in a poke buying used saws. Plus so many are discontinued we’re taking a chance with parts too.
Huskybill
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We can go to a skip tooth chain and go one less tooth on the sprocket?
You must have compromising pics of someone with domestic livestock if you are getting that price
Overkill338
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The prices I get are real. My dealer isn't trying to make a fortune off people. I can't help your dealer is a doosh lol
