Don't know what the Apples are...Oranges, I guess are Huskys and Stihls?
My point of reference is only the chainsaws I have used, which means those made in the '60s, '70s and a couple from the '80s. I haven't run very many newer chainsaws. In my experience stihls from that period were lacking in the power to weight ratios and were far more expensive to operate.
what, ran no plastic saws ? say it isnt so
No Stihl man here. I just used the 290, which isn't highly regarded here, as an example. I spent many days running them homelites and macs. Much rather use some old partners, huskys, jonsered, or stihl.
My buddy has xl12's and a sxlao that are in good shape and tune. It's almost painfull to watch him cut. Tank for tank they put considerly less wood on the ground. The only homey i don't mind using is a super ez auto.
Does a 346 count?
pioneer P28
038 magnum
Husky 353
Homelight XL
If it's "almost painful" to watch you buddy cut, then he's probably running old chipper chain and/or can't sharpen chain and/or set raker height for #### (and/or his saws aren't as healthy or correctly tuned as you believe). I have ran more than a few 029's and MS290's, and they're not the huge leap ahead of the Homelites and Macs that you're making them out to be. Believe what you want however....
He uses sharp non saftey semi chisel and full chisel, saws are sound and tuned well. If you or I, each take a mint xl12 and a good 290 to the woods, and you believe the xl12 will have as much or more wood cut up in say 2 hours? The 290 is not a huge leap ahead, thats why I used it for an example. Plus you will still have feeling in your hands when you are done.
If it's "almost painful" to watch you buddy cut, then he's probably running old chipper chain and/or can't sharpen chain and/or set raker height for #### (and/or his saws aren't as healthy or correctly tuned as you believe). I have ran more than a few 029's and MS290's, and they're not the huge leap ahead of the Homelites and Macs that you're making them out to be. Believe what you want however....
Have not yet had the pleasure of working with a crappy saw, but I'm finally doing a Small Engine Repair course where I hope to rehabilitate a Mac 2116AV with a bum oiler. Maybe then?
post scriptum
anyone else using Chrome browser on a Mac (the computer not the saw)? and getting a mixture of Swedish and English? Doesn't happen with other browsers.
the biggest pos i owned was a 262XP power to weight was poor not much lighter
than a ms 460 but gutless, just enough grunt to run a 18"b&c and was allways
out with the screwdriver that was the only good thing about the saw it taught me
how to tune, it was a bi tch to start i had it for 9 years
and it wasn't just the one that i had because i ran another one and it was the same
thank god the 390XP i have now is the direct opposite
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