Chris J.
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Yes, but that doesn't make it a great caliber! :biggrinbounce2:
True, but it's pretty impressive when a 70 year old man can drop a deer with one shot at 100 yards using a lever action .30-.30 with open sights.
Yes, but that doesn't make it a great caliber! :biggrinbounce2:
Yes, but that doesn't make it a great caliber! :biggrinbounce2:
Oh , I'm not so sure Niko. There are better rounds today. I know what your saying.
However, how would one not classify such an old great round thats been as useful, key word being useful as the 30/30 round?
More deer killed with a 30/30 than any other rifle.
Niko, just think of the 30/30 caliber as the Stihl 029 of bullets.
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Niko, just think of the 30/30 caliber as the Stihl 029 of bullets.
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They also do their intended purpose (put meat in your freezer and wood in your stove) at a fraction of the cost of their counterparts.
Well, a kill is a kill. And I would dare say the best handgun caliber is the .38.
Very,very accurate, and will drop a man as good as a .357 magnum will.
Obviously you've not researched this subject very much. That has to be one of the most inaccurate statements I've ever heard or read regarding a firearm of any kind. A .38 is a very low powered round. The projectiles are only 0.001" larger in diameter than a 9mm, and yet they are not nearly as fast. By contrast the 357 is normally around 175 fps faster than a 9mm, and up to 400fps faster than a 38. Lets take 125gr Corbon ammo for example. A 38 is listed at 950 fps which yields a wimpy 250 ft pounds of energy. The same bullet loaded into a 357 case is fired at 1400 fps yielding 543 ft pounds of energy. That's a 47% increase in speed and a 117% increase in Kinetic energy. How in the world would someone come to the conclusion that a .38 is in the same league as a .357 mag, let alone think that a 38 is just as good.
Real world data such as the Edwin Marshal studies, and the Strasbourg tests confirm that the 357 mag is at the top of the list, while the 38 is very near the bottom. I'd rather not get shot by any of them, but I wouldn't waste my money buying a 38 period. In all of my discussions with people who have willfully put themselves in harms way and purposfully ended multiple lives with a sidearm, none of them have much good to say about a 38. In contrast most of them own at least one 357, and at least one 1911.
At the end of the day, a good 38 is a waste of a good gunsmiths time and materials. Add 1/8" to the length of the cylinder and have something that might be worth while.
I could not find the weights of the heads on the website. I am specifically interested in the X25 and X27.
No weight, but these guys have been in business since 1649!!:chainsawguy:
BTW, youve never really shot a lot have you? Because if you have you would know that the recoil of a dang magnum bullet is fierce! You have much more control with a 38.....how many shooting competitions have you won? Like I said before with so many choices the 38 is like the 30/30 it has fell to the way side but in NO MEANS is it an inferior bullet.....
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