ID This Old Truck

[67L36Driver]

Yup, good spot. H.A.M.B. = Hokey Arse ?? Board. Message ?, I dunno. Been a long time since I visited. Rat Rod Central.

Intake bolted on the left side. Two oval intake ports served three cylinders each. Vertical pipe in middle of exhaust could have been plumbed to other side for intake manifold heat (you do need some to vaporize fuel mix).

and, water pumps are usually run some faster than crank speed.

 

[heyduke]

IH used the exhaust manifold as an intake manifold with their tractors.
Don't know if that helps but I thought I'd throw that out there.

hey, it could be an old Roadbinder.

 

[heyduke]

Yup, good spot. H.A.M.B. = Hokey Arse ?? Board. Message ?, I dunno. Been a long time since I visited. Rat Rod Central.

Intake bolted on the left side. Two oval intake ports served three cylinders each. Vertical pipe in middle of exhaust could have been plumbed to other side for intake manifold heat (you do need some to vaporize fuel mix).

and, water pumps are usually run some faster than crank speed.

when i have time, i'll do the math on the gear ratio. i can load it into my image editor, gimp, and measure the relative diameters of those big helical gears. there's something at the end of that shaft that looks like the outer housing of a water pump but really those gears are major overkill for that application. another thing in favor of the f-head hypothesis is what appears to be a major oversquare bore/stroke ratio. of course that might be the case with two stroke diesels too. i like your age estimate but for a different reason, the presence of wheel rims that are missing their wooden spokes. lastly, we can't assume that the engine is the original for that chassis. and it must have been pretty hazardous to drive above a few miles per hour, mechanical band type brakes and steering via a gear-type sector that looks like it came off a fishing boat. maybe someone was using it in a stationary application.

 

[67L36Driver]

Yes, rudimentary rack and pinion steering. Took another seventy years to come around again.

Old timer engines like that drove the water pump and magneto coupled head to tail.

 

[heyduke]

Yes, rudimentary rack and pinion steering. Took another seventy years to come around again.

Old timer engines like that drove the water pump and magneto coupled head to tail.

interesting, why would the magneto be driven faster than the crank? four stroke mags that i have encountered usually spin at half the the speed of the crank and are driven by the cam.

 

[heyduke]

ok, so i enlarged and enhanced the picture of the gears and was surprised to find that the largest gear is not on the crank but probably on the cam. it is driven by a gear on the crank that appears to be half it's size. to the right is an idler gear that drives the shaft on the side of the engine.

 

[fossil]

2004 Dodge Ram?

 

[066blaster]

This is my dad's 45 international 3/4 ton. Straight 6 I'm guessing the one in your photos is older.

 

[066blaster]

1920 international

 

[MustangMike]

Agree with you 100%, and UR Dad's truck is very COOL!

Thanks for sharing.

 

[066blaster]

My dad's from a small town in south Dakota. He remembered a lady driving this truck around when he was a kid. Years later a friend of his bought a farm and this truck was in one of the sheds. Had been there for 40 years. We had to cut down some big trees to get it out. He bought it and we hauled it home to wi. He had the seat done new tires and brakes. Other than that all original. No rust other than surface rust from sitting outside at a mechanic shop we took it to. The goofball had it for 6 months and didn't get much done so we had it flatbedded Home. Runs good, 67,000 miles.

 

[MustangMike]

Great Story!

 

[treeslayer2003]

that is not a series 71 or 53 detroit. it may yet be a diesel, but i don't think its a detroit.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I believe what we are looking at here is a 1923 or there abouts REO Speedwagon chassis with a Continental 7R inline 6 cylinder gas engine. I have worked on one that was in a salvage yard that was across the dirt road I grew up on.

 

[pioneerguy600]

A Google search for a REO Speedwagon brought up these results,

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/car-of-the-week/car-of-the-week-1923-reo-speedwagon

 

[Mastermind]

Looks like scrap metal to me.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Looks like scrap metal to me.

The frame looks to be in fairly good shape, you would be surprised what a auto restorer can use for a rebuilder.

 

[066blaster]

Just going by the engine looks like a 1926 has the exhaust coming out the front.

 

[Chris-PA]

A Google search for a REO Speedwagon brought up these results,

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/car-of-the-week/car-of-the-week-1923-reo-speedwagon

Bingo! That small port is an intake on one side and a coolant outlet on the other, which is what I suspected. It looks like they used the same opening and bolt sizes for each - probably saved on gaskets or something.

 

[MustangMike]

Thanks guys, I think that is it. And I never even knew there was actually a vehicle the band was named after, and to think this is just sitting in the woods, miles in on a trail in a NYS park!

I wonder if there is a way to determine if Clarence Fahnestock actually owned one. The property was donated to the State by his family after his death. There is a lot of history there, including iron mines, the ore was transported to Cold Spring Foundry where they manufactured the Parrott (Parrot) Cannon. You can find it spelled both ways, but it was one of the first rifled cannons, and helped the Union win the Civil war.

A few years ago there was a forest fire across the river (next to Storm King Mtn) and several un-exploded munitions exploded. The State hiking trails there, which had been used w/o incident for many years, were closed for several years until they were deemed safe. Seems they used to use that site for target practice!

Several portions of Fahnestock State Park are restricted because they do not want you going near the former mine sites.

Thanks to everyone for their comments and information. I learned a lot from this. Never knew about 2 cycle diesels, etc.

A 1926 REO speedwagon, WOW!!!!!