Is it time to retire the sledge and wedge and just noodle cut big rounds?

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i recently bough a huskee 22ton splitter. before that, the splitting and lifting big rounds kept giving me pains in my stomach. Sharp pains that went from my belly button right to my johnson. Also happened this week after about a half hour of sawing and lifting big rounds into the truck.

Get checked for a hernia. Hate to have balls fall off cause intestines chocked them off.
 
Does your splitter not pivot to a vertical splitting position? If not it sounds like noodling is the best way to go.

I am only 28 and messed my back up lifting big round into the back of my truck. That is when I started saving money for my splitter and 10 months later I bought one. I still noodle big rounds when they get over about 24" rounds, just to make them easier to get over to the splitter.

Tools I have found it hard to live without is; sharp chain and good saw, splitter, and a cant hook.

It would be nice if we could all afford some type of small grapple boom to lift the big stuff up on the splitter, or in the back of the truck.

--there's this nifty invention called "the inclined plane", or "ramp".

but I know what you are saying though. I don't have a boom or grapple, but I did build a box for the hayforks on the tractor, with a removable back. So right down to ground level, roll or flop in the big ones, put the back back on, lift the box, toodle on home with it. I don't do any giant lifting, simply can't, but once home I have various heights splitting blocks and can flop the real big ones over on to the shorter and fiskarize it then.

The only splitter I ever used had a log lift, and frankly, I can't see shelling out the large dollars (large as in $1,000 or more) for a gas splitter that doesn't have one. No fooling around with those whoppers, roll them into the lift, yank handle, up to split.

When I was using that trailer a couple weeks ago I just used an old pallet as a ramp to roll the ones in I couldn't lift up. That's lower than a pickup bed though....but...you can pull a trailer like that with the pickup, and keep your saws and gear in the truck, and the wood on the trailer.

Was at a store a few weeks back met some old geezer in the parking lot who had an engine hoist bolted to the rear corner of his truck. He said he used that to haul in anything from engine blocks to other equipment to big wood, whatever he needed. He said not expensive, but not sure how much that really cost. The boom on the thing was adjustable, the farther out, the less weight, but still..hmm..I am thinking the farthest out said 200 lbs, nearest inside was like 1000?? I forget now, more than enough for most wood rounds though. If it will do a v8 engine, that seems stout enough.
 
Zogger, Is this what you saw in the back of the guys truck?

1-2-half-ton-capacity-pickup-truck-crane-with-cable-winch

Coupled with a set of tongs and I like it. I would have to find a good way to secure it to the little toyota, or buy a bigger truck.

A fella on the previous page replied with this link.

Boy, sure looks a lot like it! I made a point when I saw it to go over and ask the guy about it. He had a large piece of flat steel bolted to the bed, then the crane thing bolted to that. It looked jamup near perfect for lifting big chunks 0 wood into the bed. I mean, for cheap bucks. Add a tong to the rig, you in biznezz
 
Not anymore, I leave that for the strong backs and weak minds
Ditto on the Hookeroon, but also add couple pulp hooks and a pickeroon. Puts a "handle on the big rounds".
I still noodle some of the big stuff, I split verticle and don't lift any thing over fifty pounds.
From the wood pile to the splitter to the trailer to the finished wood stack to finish drying.
The only time I use a wedge is to break the hinge on a cut down or to keep the kerf open while bucking.
I'm 78 and wish I wasn't so macho in my youth, my back would be in better condition now.

FREDM

Isn't old age wonderful? Ya got me beat but only by a year. If it weren't for the parts that hurt, I wouldn't have anything working anymore :)

Harry K
 
Yes noodle. Keep an extra clutch cover thats opened up in the back to let the noodles fly better and have at it. Yes on the Cant hook as well. Wonder how I ever got away w/o one for so long.

Depending on saw and clutch configuration, that may not be needed. My Dolmars are noodle machines, the 394 takes a touch more finesse.

Also I have found that noodling at an angle initially on one end then going parallel produces less clogging as opposed to just laying the saw parallel to the round and going in.

If I can't make any headway in 2-3 whacks with the x27 it gets noodled. This is especially true when out in the woods scrounging blowdowns. Nothing wrong splitting wood with a saw.:msp_thumbup:
 
16 lb maul is the problem. Get the X27.

You could be right...years ago I used an 8 lb. sledge but found the 16 would pound the wedge right through most things-now that was back when I was "younger" lol!

I also realize that I have had this upper-back muscle pain issues for awhile now and thinking back over the last few weeks "remember" it was showing little "signs" of returning; I guess this stupid episode just REALLY cranked it up. It's that feeling that your upper back muscles and neck muscles are so strained and inflamed that you can't move without something hurting and pulling-it almost at times feels like your neck and upper back are broken. Well, I started doing my exercises again, increased my vitamins and even though I'm not big on drugs maybe some Aleve or Aspirin short-term wouldn't be a bad idea. And time will heal it...but like you guys I just keep working and don't have much time to give it a lot of time to heal but I'll have to!

Anyways. GREAT STUFF GUYS AS USUAL! :msp_thumbup::clap:
 
I recently got turned onto the x27.

Aside from doing a good job splitting the other MAJOR change I noticed going from a maul or sledge was the LACK OF vibration/shock transmitted to my hands, wrists, and arms.

I was amazed at how well the x27 dampened that. Much less wear and tear on me.
 
I recently got turned onto the x27.

Aside from doing a good job splitting the other MAJOR change I noticed going from a maul or sledge was the LACK OF vibration/shock transmitted to my hands, wrists, and arms.

I was amazed at how well the x27 dampened that. Much less wear and tear on me.

--that was it with me and the SS. I was using an 8lb maul then sledge and wedges. Ta heck with that noise! Medieval torture, not needed. It just beats on ya! I can swing the fiskars all afternoon and ..nothing, I don't get tired or beat on.

Some old stuff is good, some new tech is better. When it comes to hand splitting, the modern splitting axes rule.
 
Spent a little time with the 8# and wedges busting some 40" rounds down to lifting size just because I didn't want the mess of noodling, haven't done that for a long time. Back bones tend to protest if I do too much of it. They protest even more trying to pick those rounds nowdays.
 
You could be right...years ago I used an 8 lb. sledge but found the 16 would pound the wedge right through most things-now that was back when I was "younger" lol!

I also realize that I have had this upper-back muscle pain issues for awhile now and thinking back over the last few weeks "remember" it was showing little "signs" of returning; I guess this stupid episode just REALLY cranked it up. It's that feeling that your upper back muscles and neck muscles are so strained and inflamed that you can't move without something hurting and pulling-it almost at times feels like your neck and upper back are broken. Well, I started doing my exercises again, increased my vitamins and even though I'm not big on drugs maybe some Aleve or Aspirin short-term wouldn't be a bad idea. And time will heal it...but like you guys I just keep working and don't have much time to give it a lot of time to heal but I'll have to!

Anyways. GREAT STUFF GUYS AS USUAL! :msp_thumbup::clap:
A 16lb sledge??!! Are you nuts? That's just gonna destroy your back. Each of us is built differently and likely has a different optimum weight to swing, but I find an 8lb is the maximum useful weight for me - and that's maybe even a bit too much. I'll admit to noodling more now than I used to, but only crotches so far - mainly so I can get something stackable out of it. I do like the idea of noodling just to start a notch for the wedges, and I plan on trying that once the deluges stop.

Was there something in those ash rounds? How old were they? I split a lot of ash, it's most of what I burn, and I find a lighter sharper tool works better than blunt mauls. It tends to crack if you can get the axe to penetrate.
 
Had a piece of hard maple this morning that kept ejecting the wedge on the third hit. Had to start another wedge next to the first to get it to pop.
 
8lb is my maximum! I'm to small for a 16lb sledge, LOL

I am built like a bean pole :msp_tongue:
 
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i used forks its easey and fast most wood i cut is 48" +
 
A 16lb sledge??!! Are you nuts? That's just gonna destroy your back. Each of us is built differently and likely has a different optimum weight to swing, but I find an 8lb is the maximum useful weight for me - and that's maybe even a bit too much. I'll admit to noodling more now than I used to, but only crotches so far - mainly so I can get something stackable out of it. I do like the idea of noodling just to start a notch for the wedges, and I plan on trying that once the deluges stop.

Was there something in those ash rounds? How old were they? I split a lot of ash, it's most of what I burn, and I find a lighter sharper tool works better than blunt mauls. It tends to crack if you can get the axe to penetrate.


Yes, I'm nuts, but that's not the question here! :msp_tongue:

The Ash was from a tree that was about 45 years-old and twisted and gnarly; not only the worst Ash I've ever dealt with but some of the worst wood I've ever dealt with PERIOD-it won, I lost trying to split it by hand. It was cut into rounds back in February. I used to use an 8 lb sledge but it didn't seem to have much behind it so years ago I switched to the 16-that has clout.

And as a sidenote, the more time that goes by the more I'm realizing that the problem is more my neck than upper back; I think I strained the upper neck muscles and did some research and some neck exercises and it seems to be helping more than the back exercises. Live and learn...
 

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