My Chinese 365XP copies...

[AUSSIE1]

If the chinese are using are using the same bearing in these knock offs as they do in other 2 cycle engines of their's I am willing to bet the connecting rod bearings will be going out after about 15-20 gallons of fuel..................

That's what we will find out and there is always that chance. What the hey aye? We will have a little fun with these saws and see what happens.

 

[Stihl Crazy]

Here is what I bought that came from China this week;

Milwaukee circular saw
Canon digital camera
DeWalt drill
Stanley hand saw and tape measure
Thermos brand thermos
Napa fuel filters
Hitachi air nailer

Over 90 percent of the products on store shelves, whether from a Canadian or American company is coming out of China. Its a joke to say "I will not buy Chinese".

Here we have $40 per hour janitors, wonder why the factories went to China.
Here if you don't buy a made in China product, you buy nothing









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[mini14]

as far as i know in the U.S. a patent is only good for 11 years then its a free for all

 

[RTK]

as far as i know in the U.S. a patent is only good for 11 years then its a free for all

I don't think the chinese know what patent law is

 

[BrocLuno]

Yes they do, they may not care ...

I been doing some looking at this issue over in the other "Chinese Chainsaw" thread. It looks like there is some gray area here. Take a firm like Juli Tool Company. They make Stihl look-a-likes. But they put them in Stihl marked boxes with export certs going to Africa and South America. Looks a lot more legit than some copy cats?

These are pre OSHA, pre EPA designs and I'll bet they are made under license from Stihl? Why would Stihl do that? Because they get to sell into markets that can't afford modern equipment and build brand loyalty. They also get a steady and ongoing source of spares for their older saws so they can keep selling spares and that makes users happy - product support. And, they get to do it w/o using MFG space or equipment that is needed for current modern production in the home country.

I don't think all the Chinese Stihls are copies or knock-offs. The issue is to find out which firms have legit MFG agreements, and I don't think that is common knowledge

Juli Tool also makes some home-grown designs too. Think about how many Chinese loggers there are working in rain forests around the world ... They have a huge market for tooling with their own people and programs.

How could Stihl or Husky get into that market, by licensing gen one designs for workers who don't get a chain brake or EPA Cat Muffler, etc. Big tough saws that fall trees and keep running. They need them as much as the next guy.

Looks like Apple to me. DejaVu all over again. Do the designs in Germany or Sweden and outsource the build. Same business model. If it worked for Apple and made it the biggest firm on Wall Street, it will work for Stihl and Husky.