Saw chain from Home Depot

[Paul61]

Sure beats using an old claw hammer!

LOL Mark!

Thanks for the informative posts guys, didn't mean to sound nasty re. the knife thing but,
some of us are a little gun shy when anyone mentions knives here

That is a gorgeous knife Trimmed, thanks for posting it

I'd still like to compare the R. "C"-scale chain hardness though??

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

The knife - the saw chain is heated and folded (via hammering) and heated and folded until a section of a chain is formed into a solid bar or plate. Then it is formed into a knife and heat treated/acid etched to show off the differences in the rivet/cutter/tiestrap/chrome materials.

So, would that be a knife made out of.......





Wait for it...........








Damascus Stihl?


:hmm3grin2orange:



Oh, I oughta be flogged for that one! :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[ShoerFast]

Paul

There is a good chance that the cutters and tie-straps are 5160 , but as far as pattern-welding (Damascus stihl) I never had any luck yet as the chrome seems to not want to fold into the other base metals and starts little cracks and flaws,,,,,,,,,,,, But I have seen knives made out of old saw chain engine timing chain, bike chain but what I think makes the most interesting is cable Damascus!

Here is a good tutorial
http://forum.ramanon.com/showthread.php?t=36576

 

[trimmmed]

That was a good tutorial!! He also has alot of pics in his gallery that are worth seeing


http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/docs/gallery.htm

 

[NWCS]

anybody have one of these hardness testers around? if anybody had one it would be easy enough to figure out the hardness of Oregon's chain. or anything for that matter!
http://www.grizzly.com/products/g9645

I can't discuss our patented recipe or the hardness. What do you plan to do with the chain? I've seen it hammered into a knife.

 

[Paul61]

anybody have one of these hardness testers around? if anybody had one it would be easy enough to figure out the hardness of Oregon's chain. or anything for that matter!
http://www.grizzly.com/products/g9645

Ben,
Most die shops I design for have Rockwell testers, I could get it done easily. The same goes for the material analisis ( as per Bob Wright), which is why I'm puzzled @ the so called confidentiality of the info?
We all know the Oregon stuff is the softest & therefore easiest chain to file.
I doubt making the info public would do them any harm?

 

[ShoerFast]

Ben,
Most die shops I design for have Rockwell testers, I could get it done easily. The same goes for the material analisis ( as per Bob Wright), which is why I'm puzzled @ the so called confidentiality of the info?
We all know the Oregon stuff is the softest & therefore easiest chain to file.
I doubt making the info public would do them any harm?

I hear that!

I have been told by a Shihl rep (about 20 years ago) that Stihl is the only one that draws the hardness back to keep the cutter - harder on the out-side,,,,, to aid in a wear - self sharpining effect. (along with hard chrome)

I would bet that Stihl and Carlton cutters and DL links are 5160,,,,, second guess would be O-1 0r O-2?

Paul

Is there a change that you would know were there is a stack of some 5180 ?

I stumbled into a couple samples, and love the stuff!

Also, cured my hot-punching problim by getting some S-7 ,,,,, air-hardened a sample from 1650 - 1700 and baked @ 550 for a couple hours,,,, plays hell with belts (my best guess,,,, 58 rockwell?) but now I dont work the steel so hot,,,,, 500 - 600 (no color in daylight) and punch holes all day long!

Also need some H-13 for a new idea!

Thanks for your help!

Kevin

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Ben,
Most die shops I design for have Rockwell testers, I could get it done easily. The same goes for the material analisis ( as per Bob Wright), which is why I'm puzzled @ the so called confidentiality of the info?

Standard stuff for corporate America. Doesn't have to make sense. When I worked for AirTouch, we treated the location of our cell sites as if they were the Manhattan Project, even though the location, height, and other info was right there in the FCC database for anybody who wanted to look it up. It's public info, by law.

 

[dingo]

Home Depot is selling saw chain with three interconnected rings or ovals stamped on the tiestraps. If you have tried this chain please post your experience.

JUNK, from the word go

 

[Paul61]

I hear that!

I have been told by a Shihl rep (about 20 years ago) that Stihl is the only one that draws the hardness back to keep the cutter - harder on the out-side,,,,, to aid in a wear - self sharpining effect. (along with hard chrome)

I would bet that Stihl and Carlton cutters and DL links are 5160,,,,, second guess would be O-1 0r O-2?

Paul

Is there a change that you would know were there is a stack of some 5180 ?

I stumbled into a couple samples, and love the stuff!

Also, cured my hot-punching problim by getting some S-7 ,,,,, air-hardened a sample from 1650 - 1700 and baked @ 550 for a couple hours,,,, plays hell with belts (my best guess,,,, 58 rockwell?) but now I dont work the steel so hot,,,,, 500 - 600 (no color in daylight) and punch holes all day long!

Also need some H-13 for a new idea!

Thanks for your help!

Kevin

Hey Kevin,

I'll put the feelers out for some 5180 & H-13 for ya.
Shipping may be an issue though!!
Glad to hear you found a cure for your punch issue, us die makers rarely use the "S" series as it's better suited for hot working & quite $$. We tend to stick with the cold work steels such as: A-2, D-2, 4140,P-20, & a bit of 0-1
However there are some severe apps. which require the newer powdered metals ie. M-2, etc.
Carbide is also used extensively in prog. dies which produce chain parts, etc. or other extremely high volume tooling.
I haven't personally designed or built carbide tooling in my 30 years with the industry.

 

[Paul61]

Standard stuff for corporate America. Doesn't have to make sense. When I worked for AirTouch, we treated the location of our cell sites as if they were the Manhattan Project, even though the location, height, and other info was right there in the FCC database for anybody who wanted to look it up. It's public info, by law.

I hear ya Mark.
We cetainly wouldn't want to get anyone fired or................banned for that matter :hmm3grin2orange:

Paul

 

[slipknot]

Home Depot is selling saw chain with three interconnected rings or ovals stamped on the tiestraps. If you have tried this chain please post your experience.

You guys @ oregon aren't making it for them are you ? You know like you make husky/jonsered and dolmar chain? I haven't even seen the stuff just wondering why you would be asking!

 

[Oregon Engineer]

Let's get back to the issue

Vacation called me away for two weeks.

Dingo - Have you used the chain from Home Depot with three interconnected rings/ovals?

Slipknot - I see comparisons made between saw chain produced by all the major saw chain manufacturers. I have not seen anything on the Home Depot saw chain with three interconnected rings/ovals. Home Depot will sell a staggeringly large volume of that chain. End user comments on saw chain are extremely important and I'd like to know what they experience with the Home Depot chain. Sooner or later most dealers will see this chain come in on saws.

 

[NWCS]

Oregon Engineer: is this chain an Oregon product? is oregon going to change anything in their normal chain to lessen the constant stretch and readjustments needed? most other chains do not have this issue. i would love to see Oregon use stronger tie straps like Stihl or Carlton. this would cure the stretch issues and make a VERY good chain.

 

[l2edneck]

Stihl Chains all Ill buy

IMO other manufacturers make chains with the smaller teeth.Stihl hasnt let me down and usually twice the amount of teeth.Only problem has been with the hardened stuff.Seems they are harder to file after initial edge is gone.Destroys files and not best edge.Ne 1 else have any probs?Also my dealer can get a Stihl chain that fits ne thing,for bars oregon been the best and chains ride decent

 

[Stumper]

Oregon Engineer: is this chain an Oregon product? is oregon going to change anything in their normal chain to lessen the constant stretch and readjustments needed? most other chains do not have this issue. i would love to see Oregon use stronger tie straps like Stihl or Carlton. this would cure the stretch issues and make a VERY good chain.

I run mostly Carlton-I have a reel of it-but I have no issue with stretch with Oregon. Keep it sharp.

 

[dingo]

Vacation called me away for two weeks.

Dingo - Have you used the chain from Home Depot with three interconnected rings/ovals?

Slipknot - I see comparisons made between saw chain produced by all the major saw chain manufacturers. I have not seen anything on the Home Depot saw chain with three interconnected rings/ovals. Home Depot will sell a staggeringly large volume of that chain. End user comments on saw chain are extremely important and I'd like to know what they experience with the Home Depot chain. Sooner or later most dealers will see this chain come in on saws.

I can't swear by the markings, because we pitched the chain. The chain from HD cut as good as any, but it had soft teeth and hard teeth, Hit a tooth with a file and it would be like high carbon; maybe the next tooth would be like a low grade of mild steel. Probably shot my mouth off because I can't find the thing to varify the markings, seems to be the norm after I have spent the day in the timber and turn on this machine in the relax mode.:help:

 

[Oregon Engineer]

Dingo - Over the last year HD has switched chain suppliers from one of the big 4 to a Chinese supplier. HD has been moving in the Chinese chain as the inventory has been used up. If your chain was purchased more than a year ago then it was the old supplier.
Thanks for your input and keep an eye out.

 

[RED-85-Z51]

I bought a bar/chain combo for my neighbor for his Poulan. It was a 20" bar/chain combo.

He didnt care for it, and said it had bad stretch problems over the windsor chain I got for him prior. Also, when Isharpened it on my electric sharpener, I found that the teeth were worn unevenly! A few teeth looked new, while others were worn very dull, and 1 was broken off.

I didnt look at the brand or the chain too closely, but it WAS from HD, and it was about 3 months ago. He had to cut up some oak from a tree he dropped.

I put some Oregon on it, and it worked great, so far it hasnt needed sharpening, and he says he's only had to tighten it a few times.

How is that Windsor Chain? I put that on a Husky 55 a while back, never heard any complaints!

I do know the Bar/chain was NOT poulan OEM, as they had that too, but it was horribly overpriced, somewhere around $50 for the bar and chain.

 

[Oregon Engineer]

I bought a bar/chain combo for my neighbor for his Poulan. It was a 20" bar/chain combo.

He didnt care for it, and said it had bad stretch problems over the windsor chain I got for him prior. Also, when Isharpened it on my electric sharpener, I found that the teeth were worn unevenly! A few teeth looked new, while others were worn very dull, and 1 was broken off.

I didnt look at the brand or the chain too closely, but it WAS from HD, and it was about 3 months ago....

Were the teeth worn unevenly and broken due to poor operator technique?