Shop Re-Sharpened Chains vs. Factory

[svk]

I've acquired a few Vanguard chains when I've purchased Oregon Pro-Am bars for a few of my saws. I think they cut pretty well for what they are and I have the shop by my cabin sharpen them for me.

 

[CoreyB]

I've acquired a few Vanguard chains when I've purchased Oregon Pro-Am bars for a few of my saws. I think they cut pretty well for what they are and I have the shop by my cabin sharpen them for me.

I played with a vanguard a bit and had good results. Can definitely get some firewood cut with it. But did need a a bit of sorting.

 

[Roofgunner]

When I first started sharpening chain, with just a file and no training back in the 70's (on a XL923 Homelite) I remember how frustrated I'd get. Sometimes the saw wouldn't cut straight, or cut very well. I hated having to take the blades somewhere. And then, when I did it seemed like they ground off an awful lot. Then I learned while in Kalifornia because I cut almond wood and had an unlimited supply (Blue Diamond orchards along I-5) to heat the house. I got one of those Oregon Shure sharpes and learned to use it. There was a lady in a chain saw shop in Woodland that told me to use a carrot to keep the stone wet and cool. She said that if you overheat the tooth while sharpening it the temper will go out and some shops get them too hot while sharpening. I have no problem now keeping the blades sharp for my 445 and 372XP. The main thing is to master the device you use to sharpen, don't take the temper out of the teeth, be consistent and make sure the depth gauges are proper and all the same and keep the bar and chain out of the dirt. New or used the blade will cut. The chips will tell you when you need to resharpen.

 

[Khntr85]

Vanguard chain is a mess if you have only a file to work with. That looks pretty good khn

Yes filing the rakers on the vanguards with a flat file would be like torchere LOL....

Once I got the teeth sharp and the rakers down, these chains flat out cut great....glad I got them back into shape...

 

[hedge hog]

Okay some pics
Set up

Wheels
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The next 2 are Stihl grinding wheel

The next 2 are CBN

And ''tis picture is too show I found this chain on a busy highway and recycled it
Look at the rivet it was hell to straighten
3/8 Stihl chisel chain

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[Stihl 041S]

Nice exhaust.

Wheel need dressing??

 

[Woodblocker55]

No one ever said we have a chain sharping God in the forums . Those are some Wicked angles.[emoji106]

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[Woodblocker55]

How do you get 10 degree vise tip ? I do know some guys don't bother with it .

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[Khntr85]

Okay some pics
Set up

Wheels
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170329/ae1a4f03d63122fe964a8384f393e0cd.jpg[/IMG
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170329/eb191e8109a3ae5e98be6cd260a5c3cf.jpg
The next 2 are Stihl grinding wheel
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170329/e955438b90df30eba4effab3dc39b776.jpg

The next 2 are CBN

And ''tis picture is too show I found this chain on a busy highway and recycled it
Look at the rivet it was hell to straighten
3/8 Stihl chisel chain

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Looking very nice man!!!!
Your setup truly is sweet....my is mounted on my work bench which is dirty....I got saws, saw parts, tools, and whom kws what else laying around.....my damn work bench really does look like a Stihl grave yard....

Anyway those chains will no doubt cut very fast!!!

 

[hedge hog]

The Stihl wheel I used didn't load

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[hedge hog]

Nice exhaust.

Wheel need dressing??

It sucks all the sparks and dust up and stays cleaner than my work benches

CBN never needs dressing
The Stihl does

 

[hedge hog]

How do you get 10 degree vise tip ? I do know some guys don't bother with it .

Woodblocker55

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Table slides back and forth

And set it at zero for rakers


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[hedge hog]

No one ever said we have a chain sharping God in the forums . Those are some Wicked angles.[emoji106]

Woodblocker55

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I don't burn wood in my house or shop only outside fire pit
But sell a lot of it and its work and enjoy it
But I'm starting to enjoy sharpening more and more
And it's easier on the back


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[hedge hog]

I just got on my computer and the cutter pics didn't turn out very good too much zoom on the iphone so I will redo
and tapatalk didn't like loading them on one post
a redo is in order after I get off work

 

[Woodblocker55]

This is really hmm goofy but I do it to my sharpened chains if you take a piece of brass like .020 brass tag and run it across sharp edge it will remove burrs and leave a perfect edge. It's a tool maker trick on dies . It makes edge very clean and in dies you did it to keep hardened steel from hitting the punch . But in wood it makes grab hard and really bit. That's some over kill for you. [emoji106][emoji41]

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[Woodblocker55]

My Oregon chains say 10 degrees on vise. But I have sharpened them at 0 most of the time. Only when got extra time. Might be over kill again lol

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[hedge hog]

The 15 + - is Stihl 10 degrees
And there 40 is really 60 degrees

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[Khntr85]

The 15 + - is Stihl 10 degrees
And there 40 is really 60 degrees

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Hey did you measure the Stihl and Oregon grinder to knownthat the 40 on the Stihl is 60 on the Oregon.....I have always been curious of what the difference is in the way both brands "measure" their angles....

 

[hedge hog]

Hey did you measure the Stihl and Oregon grinder to knownthat the 40 on the Stihl is 60 on the Oregon.....I have always been curious of what the difference is in the way both brands "measure" their angles....

Yes there same
There grinders are weird numbers for some and it might be they can do hedge clippers
40= 60
15=10
Top plate angles are normal


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[Stihl 041S]

It sucks all the sparks and dust up and stays cleaner than my work benches

CBN never needs dressing
The Stihl does

With CBN and diamond wheels "dressing" means cleaning.
On these little grinders anyway.
A white stick to get rid of the steel in the wheel.
Most come with them.