Top Handles-The Best of the Rest?

[Tzed250]

This thread might be of some interest:

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=73293

 

[Dadatwins]

As long as a few are bringing up the older top handles like the homie super 2, let us not leave out the poulan s25da and its various cousins. Built like a tank, all metal, and made a lot of $$ for those that used them. I know many tree guys that still have boxes of parts of these old poulans sitting around.

 

[rbtree]

thanks TZED.

There is no doubt the 2139/338 with a second 9/16th id muffler port will beat a 200T. And run for a long time, reliably.

11 years after the 335 came out, and the saw is finally a winner.

pgg and I are both extemely knowledgable and experienced pro users. Take note, those of you who think the Husky saws are a pile of cra p.....

I will never buy another new 200T....it is too expensive, and far from the only game in town.

I can't say the same for the Cali's....I don't like my 335 Cali's...maybe the 338 Cali's are better, dunno.

 

[rbtree]

As long as a few are bringing up the older top handles like the homie super 2, let us not leave out the poulan s25da and its various cousins. Built like a tank, all metal, and made a lot of $$ for those that used them. I know many tree guys that still have boxes of parts of these old poulans sitting around.

It's a dinosaur. I have 4 parts saws and one running S25-you want it? Haven't used it in 10 years.

All the older heavier saws were instantly obsoleted when the 200T and 335 came out.

 

[Dadatwins]

RB I agree they are dinos but much better than the homies. Mine have not been in the air in probably 10 years also. But they were good in their time. Did you ever get the chance to try the dolmar 3410?

 

[rbtree]

new climber on our crew got a 338 cali from the boss and that thing stinks. granted its still breaking in but i think its a dog. he's been letting me fiddle with it because the first time i heard it run i knew something was wrong with it. he brought it back to the dealer to get it adjusted but it still ran like dung. thats when i started trying to dial it in. its getting there but even at the 45cc its been given it still cant cut with the 2hunge.


out of curiousity what kind of bar upgrade is there for the 338?

I assume that saw came with the Intens system. Get a real bar, and the adjusting assembly.

Stock, the Calis rev up slow and sound like their missing, or running rough. Displacement is 7 cc too much for the same size carb and engine porting. Port the muffler on that saw, and it will run better. My older one is a dog, and has no auto decompression, so is danged hard to crank over. The new 335 is better and runs well. i'm going to switch the ported muffler to it and compare it to my new ported Jonsy 2139. (identical to the 338) My guess is the 7 cc smaller 2139 may beat it...... (check out the above link to my other thread, you'll see my 2139 cut 40% faster after the muffler switch.)

 

[rbtree]

RB I agree they are dinos but much better than the homies. Mine have not been in the air in probably 10 years also. But they were good in their time. Did you ever get the chance to try the dolmar 3410?

I might, but the 192T is lighter and plenty peppy with a muffler mod....and I picked up a second one for $150 a while back. Plus,I know the 3410 can't come close to a 2139/338/200T even if worked over.

A friend got a Solo 637 even though I sent him others' opinions that the 3410 was better. So far, he likes it...

 

[04ultra]

RB how many 335's did you have before you found a good one???




I had two that ran good after all the updates and bugs were worked out. Had to pull teeth to get someone to buy them...
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[Just Mow]

RB how many 335's did you have before you found a good one???





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2,324,090.5

 

[parrisw]

I just bought a new 200T about a month ago. Only had 3 tanks of gas so far. Do they ship them running rich? I sounds fairly rich to me. I helped do a removal yesterday, and sent my saw up the tree for him to use, and could definatly hear the difference between the two saws. Both has same bar and chain, mine was sharp. Could hear his rev out more.

 

[Woodie]

Try the dolmar 3410th as a sub for the 200t. Not quite the power of the 200t but it will get the job done and take almost 1/2 off the price of the king.

Or go with a Jred 2139T and get more power than the 200T with less weight and $$.


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[parrisw]

Or go with a Jred 2139T and get more power than the 200T with less weight and $$.


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Sounds like a real winner. Wish I could try one out.

 

[Just Mow]

Sounds like a real winner. Wish I could try one out.

Don't, he's just wishful thinking :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Woodie]

Don't, he's just wishful thinking :hmm3grin2orange:

Seriously, though...facts is facts. (Facts be facts?)

It is more powerful, it weighs a couple of micronanodecofartograms less, and it's sure less spendy.

I've never used one, nor a 200T...I don't climb so I've got no need of either.

Now why don't you just hush up and get a couple more a'them novas why don'tchee?

 

[Tzed250]

What is the street price for a 2139T?

 

[Woodie]

What is the street price for a 2139T?

As I recall it was somewhere around $380, but don't quote me on that.




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[THALL10326]

I live in an area where there's a lot of fruit farmers (pears, apples mainly, but also cherry, etc), hence we have huge area's of low stem fruit trees, which need constant pruning.
There's also a high density of chainsaw dealers around here (all brands) , but all these farmers only use one saw : the ms200T. My Stihl dealer Eddy sells them like candy, everytime I visit his shop, I'll notice him selling a new one. You should see them smiling faces when he fires up a new 200t and make a test run, what a screamer.
so many people can't be wrong, I guess.

Good point. Seems the new little Husky, J'reds and the Dolmar are getting good reviews but while they were finally getting it right the 200T was in the woods working and flying off the shelves for years. In Virginia the 200T rules, they seem to be on every truck in the biz, including the electric companies, phone companies too. Some like facts, such as Woodie, so here's a fact, more 200Ts are sold each year than all other tops handle saws combined, nuff said, the public has spoken. All the Jonny come latelys are too late(that was for you Woodie,hehehehe)

 

[Woodie]

Good point. Seems the new little Husky, J'reds and the Dolmar are getting good reviews but while they were finally getting it right the 200T was in the woods working and flying off the shelves for years. In Virginia the 200T rules, they seem to be on every truck in the biz, including the electric companies, phone companies too. Some like facts, such as Woodie, so here's a fact, more 200Ts are sold each year than all other tops handle saws combined, nuff said, the public has spoken. All the Jonny come latelys are too late(that was for you Woodie,hehehehe)

Yup...so I read this post of yours, and it seems to say Stihl is going to let another saw die on the vine. All the Stihlheads will keep buying them, while meanwhile the other mfgrs seem to have bettered them. Just like the MS260. Dunkin' Donuts now makes a better 50cc saw than Stihl, but the 260 keeps selling, right Tommy?

Who cares if the other mfgrs are "finally getting it right." In the highly technical terms used by specialists in the field, the past is what they call "history." What matters is what's the best saw now. Personally, I really don't have that answer, and won't pretend I do...I've never used either saw, and likely won't ever. But it sounds to me like the Stihl heads are using outdated, inferior equipment if you ask me.

So stick THAT in your craw and smoke it!! :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[oldirty]

i mean if Jred wants to sponsor me in the tree with a new 2139 top handle i will take it and run the pants off it. and then give an honest opinion of said tophandle. but seeing how they are not going to send me one i am going to go with what i know to be THE saw to use as a climber.

someone on this site tell jred to send me a saw. i'll let you know if she can run or not.

 

[2000ssm6]

Yup...so I read this post of yours, and it seems to say Stihl is going to let another saw die on the vine. All the Stihlheads will keep buying them, while meanwhile the other mfgrs seem to have bettered them. Just like the MS260. Dunkin' Donuts now makes a better 50cc saw than Stihl, but the 260 keeps selling, right Tommy?

Who cares if the other mfgrs are "finally getting it right." In the highly technical terms used by specialists in the field, the past is what they call "history." What matters is what's the best saw now. Personally, I really don't have that answer, and won't pretend I do...I've never used either saw, and likely won't ever. But it sounds to me like the Stihl heads are using outdated, inferior equipment if you ask me.

So stick THAT in your craw and smoke it!! :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

All that "who ha" and all you had to say is people must like the older stuff better, Stihl out sells the piss out of all those huskaredpullonmaxs.

btw, check back on later tonight, I will start a thread you should like.:biggrinbounce2: