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Advice on this removal/cleanup?

Discussion in 'Business Management' started by dschroeder, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. dschroeder

    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    a friends HOA is looking to have this tree removed/cleaned up. (Storm took it out). Any advice on it? Be my first this size. Got a buddy helping that will take it for firewood. How do I bid this?
     

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    Del_ I'm completely reformed.

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    Bid it real cheap so you get it! The firewood is worth a fortune.
     
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    chipper1 Tree Freak

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    Dang bro.

    OP have you ever done storm cleanup.
    Do you have a plan so that you do not damage the other trees.
    No one here knows your experience, except what you've lead on with your question, so we know what you haven't done, but not what you have done.
    What gear/equipment do you have/plan on using.
     
  4. dschroeder

    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    This will be my first one of their size, as well as a leaner. Lots of experience cutting, helped drop/buck trees. Pic below is a recent dead drop I did for my HOA (rain came thru and flattened the grass/cat tails). We'll get it out of there once the ground is frozen

    As for equip, 3 guys with saws from looking at it it should slide free of the tree it is leaning against. Not equipped to climb.

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    ATH Addicted to ArboristSite

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    And then walk away when you decide that you've spent the number of hours to cover your estimate.:laugh:
     
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  6. dschroeder

    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    Lol I couldn't do that, even as side work I'll finish what I started.
     
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    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    Part of the equipment I forgot to list earlier is a 3/4 ton truck and 16ft gooseneck trailer that will be used to haul away
     
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    Greenerpastures ArboristSite Operative

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    If the other / standing tree does not matter, then start at the bottom of the fallen one
    and cut the arm that is cuttently sticking up into the other tree,
    then use a hand winch to pull it back off the other tree until it settles on the ground.

    It really does depend on what the owner of the standing tree wants to do, if they want
    it saved, then a lot more money for time and machinery, it would be way less hassle if the
    fallen tree were not tangled, or if it was a stadning tree that you could climb and drop the
    limbs where they would not hit the surrounding trees.
     
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    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    It's all on HOA property so only one " owner " to deal with. Going to take a look at it tomorrow and will post some more pictures. Hoping I get a contact person or a phone call from them today to see if they are interested.
     
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    chipper1 Tree Freak

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    I missed that one, wow.
     
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    chipper1 Tree Freak

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    This one is a little different than that one :yes:.
    You have some experience, but I promise if you take on this one you will quickly get a lot more, with experience being what you get when things don't go as planned.
    Why not buck that tree in the cattails into logs and skid it out now rather than leave it lay, it looks about as bad laying in the ditch as it does standing.

    Do you have insurance or some sort of plan to replace the concrete sidewalk if you damage it(it looks brand new.. What about the stump, how will you remove that, will you rent a grinder for the remaining roots.
    Mitigating further damage to the surroundings should be part of a good plan.
    Yes it "should" slide out of the tree it's in, where will you be when it does, are you familiar with the types of cuts needed to make this happen.
    I'd advise you pass on this one. Then find out when the guys who have experience in this sort of work will be there and go and watch how it's done, hopefully you will not have to gain all your experience the hard way.
     
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    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    I would love to get the one out of the cat tails but it is a low lying " wetland area" and we've had daily rain since I dropped it. We have a few weeks of dry weather coming so will get it out ASAP
     
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    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    I do have liability insurance for doing other work around my HOA. I need to find out what they want done with the stump and hole still. Just found out about this last night
     
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    $1,300 to leave the stump. $2,000 to remove stump and fill hole in with topsoil.

    Edit: you will need to rent a mini excavator with a thumb to remove the stump.
     
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    So do you think he should go for it James.
    To bad your not closer, I'd do the stump for you for less and you could make a few bucks extra off it :).
     
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    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    If they aren't super picky about the tree it's leaning in or stump removal I may give it a shot but I will take more pictures and upload them here this weekend
     
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    I did not want to say it, but I agree with those who are pointing out this is
    not so straight forward, lots of room to loose a lot of money, and every possability
    to get hurt too.
    People are fine, until you give them an opportunity to complain, so cover all your
    options, and most of all, keep safe.
     
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    dschroeder ArboristSite Member

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    Good point and I will openly admit I'm an amateur compared to most of you on here I'll get some better pictures for you guys to look at and give me some guidance on how to do it or just walk away
     
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    Before you think about how this could be done, call up your insurance co and ask if your GL policy covers tree work.
    Also, most people on this site are as amateur as you are so be careful who you take advice from. This may be called arborist site but there are more chainsaw junkies than actual arborist or tree pros here.
    That's not exactly gonna be like just felling a standing tree, there's a ton of different pressure going on there and lots of weight to consider. You're not just gonna cut the root ball off and yank it out with the truck.
    If you really want the firewood or to make a bit on this, why not hire someone who has experience and proper insurance to get it safely to the ground and you can cleanup the mess. You might learn some great stuff watching.
     
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    I can get an excavator for $150 a day 10,000 lb. But, he should make some money to haul it away and deal with the whole thing..

    As far as recommending him to do it. I don't know his skill level. That tree could kill or cripple a man easily.
     
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