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Sorry guys, the 30-30 aint gonna cut it. With the griz on the perimeter it is about portable stoping power and a foolproof action. 9 words, Compact .500 Smith and Wesson stainless double action revolver. Other popular choices would be the .44 mag and .454 Casull.

For rifles I would use the .338 win mag or the .375 H&H mag.
 
Sorry guys, the 30-30 aint gonna cut it. With the griz on the perimeter it is about portable stoping power and a foolproof action. 9 words, Compact .500 Smith and Wesson stainless double action revolver. Other popular choices would be the .44 mag and .454 Casull.

For rifles I would use the .338 win mag or the .375 H&H mag.

To tell more truth Ionly got the 30/30 so i could be like Clint and John anyway. I got a Mossberg lever action which is actually quite small and a Marlin something or another. Nothing fancy but I did buy used older guns for. The mossberg is rather rare I found out by chance but really I only paid a buck for it .

Those nine words just sold me a gun if I was climbing in Alaska for sure AND dam skippy I would strap it on. I have been through a lot of crazy jobs but have yet to defend the perimeter from advancing grizzly bears. Man that sounds like fun!" Yo ! Look out, that one is after the saws and that one wants to complain about the noise!" Oh, if only it could be as easy and fun as bears.
The other rifle is a Marlin .22 Mag AND when I picked it up for 2 bills didn't know I couldn't get the bird/snake rounds for it. Can you put those rounds in a .22 handgun? Cause that's more of something you might need around here to ward off a snake, beehive or put the ocassional small animal out of its misery.
I got the .22 mag cause I wanted something cheap and nice and small to keep in the truck. Sometimes I get to shoot it on breaks on the job if the client has a range and lets me- which is rather often actually. Some of you nuts have some really nice guns!
Personally, I would not be caught dead walking around the game lands in hunting season these days!
I see a lot of people with that .22 mag, it makes a bigger hole than the .22.
 
You guys up there are really steeped in some tree work. So you got your thing, your brother has his and you both use other climbers and groundies?
You know all these people here like you cause you are such a bad ass but in some of the pictures you posted you appeared to be quite a hack. No joke and I am not trying to demean you. I just find it interesting that you know so much but know so little.
I asked you before about who taught you but I guess I wasn't satisfied with the answer. You did tell me your dad taught you a lot but I don't get it. Did you ever work at another company, school, etc?
Really, you mess around with some serious stuff there kiddo.Ever see anyone else do it? What was it that made the seed sprout? Are you now a full time tree guy?
I am only asking because I find it interesting, not bad, not good just interesting. You know by now if I thought you were a spade I would call you one so if you want ramble on, I am listening.
My definition of a hack is someone who routinley hacks and thinks its good.,like MDS. ( a hearty guffaw)


T-man I will try my best to address this, seems you got lost in many inerpretations here and lack much critical information.

First, me and my brother both work for my dad doing treework partime. We also own a fabrication business which us 3 and another partner built from the ground up. We do that 40-48 hrs. a week and then hit the trees, weekends and nights. We also do some logging jobs, have a portable sawmill, and some excavating. I am the foreman/engineer/quality control at my day job, hiring/firing, training, encouraging, disciplining and working on the floor with the men.

My dad taught me and my bro from day 1. He used to run a crew fulltime for Asplund when he was in his mid 20's then he went into the Laborers Union paving roads. Soon he was in Operaters Union (20 yrs), overseeing, moving and running a portable concrete batch plant for the biggest paving outfit in Wisconsin. I always went to work with him as a boy. He let us do things at a very young age.

I have a picture of me at 15 taking the weight off the house side of a big softmaple with a 2071 J-red. That wasn't my first job either, just my first good pictures, before digital cameras. I was taking down trees in peoples yards since age 12, for the record I am 27 and my bro is 23. A lot of my new techniques come from studying AS. I now show my dad some things, but he developed the grit in us to get any and all jobs done, no excuses.

I never worked for another tree company, but have worked as a lineman and union laborer on the concrete paving crew. When younger, worked on many farms, poured basements, welded, did landscaping, etc. I have a technical diploma in Electrical Power Distribution with a 4.0 gpa, top kid in the program and paid for by my own sweat. I bought my home and property at 23, got married at 25 and now have my second kid on the way.

As far as the Hack thing, I don't buy into the notion, I believe it is a marketing term intended to demean others work in order to get work for oneself. Unfortunately homeowners don't have a clue, so treeguys just end up throwing it at each other. You can't stop honest, quality, hard work, done at a fair price, based on solid customer relations, nomatter what label you try to put on it.

It may appear that I know little sometimes, but it is about humility like Rope said. Think you know it all and the critical details will get by you while your head is in the clouds.

Now T-man, I hope this completes your profile on me.
 
T-man I will try my best to address this, seems you got lost in many inerpretations here and lack much critical information.

First, me and my brother both work for my dad doing treework partime. We also own a fabrication business which us 3 and another partner built from the ground up. We do that 40-48 hrs. a week and then hit the trees, weekends and nights. We also do some logging jobs, have a portable sawmill, and some excavating. I am the foreman/engineer/quality control at my day job, hiring/firing, training, encouraging, disciplining and working on the floor with the men.

My dad taught me and my bro from day 1. He used to run a crew fulltime for Asplund when he was in his mid 20's then he went into the Laborers Union paving roads. Soon he was in Operaters Union (20 yrs), overseeing, moving and running a portable concrete batch plant for the biggest paving outfit in Wisconsin. I always went to work with him as a boy. He let us do things at a very young age.

I have a picture of me at 15 taking the weight off the house side of a big softmaple with a 2071 J-red. That wasn't my first job either, just my first good pictures, before digital cameras. I was taking down trees in peoples yards since age 12, for the record I am 27 and my bro is 23. A lot of my new techniques come from studying AS. I now show my dad some things, but he developed the grit in us to get any and all jobs done, no excuses.

I never worked for another tree company, but have worked as a lineman and union laborer on the concrete paving crew. When younger, worked on many farms, poured basements, welded, did landscaping, etc. I have a technical diploma in Electrical Power Distribution with a 4.0 gpa, top kid in the program and paid for by my own sweat. I bought my home and property at 23, got married at 25 and now have my second kid on the way.

As far as the Hack thing, I don't buy into the notion, I believe it is a marketing term intended to demean others work in order to get work for oneself. Unfortunately homeowners don't have a clue, so treeguys just end up throwing it at each other. You can't stop honest, quality, hard work, done at a fair price, based on solid customer relations, nomatter what label you try to put on it.

It may appear that I know little sometimes, but it is about humility like Rope said. Think you know it all and the critical details will get by you while your head is in the clouds.

Now T-man, I hope this completes your profile on me.

No it don't but I am begining to understand your screen name. I am certainly impressed with you and at such a young age, you are really on target.
I was curious how you got into trees, just because. I ask people this all the time, the answers I get vary a lot but I find it interesting.
One guy I knoe said he started at a rental yard and when someone wanted to rent a chainsaw he would just say" I'll do it for you". 30 years later he still don't know what the F he is doing.
Keep at it.
 
well said nails. handled that like a gentleman you did. i think i wouldve gotten pissed and just told him to f' himself. i guess i am not as well spoken as you sir. a fine quality!


tman when you gonna post some pics....what you got, what you do treewise pics? show me the treeman, dan.
 
well said nails. handled that like a gentleman you did. i think i wouldve gotten pissed and just told him to f' himself. i guess i am not as well spoken as you sir. a fine quality!


tman when you gonna post some pics....what you got, what you do treewise pics? show me the treeman, dan.

Now why would you get pissed? Like I said; I am writing a book. Don't hand me that crap.Getting all upity cause I wanted to know where the guy came from? I didn't know- So I asked!
I guess I will try to rememnber the f-ing camera tommorow, just for you. I do just what you do, cepting no one tells me ####, no one. But if you would like to know, just ask!
 
Now why would you get pissed? Like I said; I am writing a book. Don't hand me that crap.Getting all upity cause I wanted to know where the guy came from? I didn't know- So I asked!
I guess I will try to rememnber the f-ing camera tommorow, just for you. I do just what you do, cepting no one tells me ####, no one. But if you would like to know, just ask!

i'm not pissed. i am saying that if you said that to me i wouldnt have been so diplomatic, thats all.
 
Sorry guys, the 30-30 aint gonna cut it. With the griz on the perimeter it is about portable stoping power and a foolproof action. 9 words, Compact .500 Smith and Wesson stainless double action revolver. Other popular choices would be the .44 mag and .454 Casull.

For rifles I would use the .338 win mag or the .375 H&H mag.
I would add the 300 mag and 54 cal and 444 marlin all with proper grain
bullets. I also would say anyone should watch the Fred Bear film of him
taking the world record at that time with a recurve great video and I
would like to do it one day. Shot placement absolutely imperative as
well as total scentlessness. Bears don't have the best vision but can
smell better than deer.
 
seriously though you dont any pics of what youve done or any of that?

well I guess I am not one for diplomacy either but give me a break, I wasn't tearing the man down one bit. Don't you like to talk about yourself?
No I ain't got no pictures.
 
Here T-man, put this on the cover of your book. lol I was doing some splittin today and the wife came down to take a peek, so I through up a shot for the new Stihl calender Playgirl style. I eat pretty good these days. The scar on my stomach is from a diaphramatic hernia surgery I had when I was two, lived on one lung for 2 years.

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Oldirty, before I was married I handled a lot of things different. They call it "settlin down" or something.

I apologize if this is too much, too soon. lol.
 
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You guys up there are really steeped in some tree work. So you got your thing, your brother has his and you both use other climbers and groundies?
You know all these people here like you cause you are such a bad ass but in some of the pictures you posted you appeared to be quite a hack. No joke and I am not trying to demean you. I just find it interesting that you know so much but know so little.
I asked you before about who taught you but I guess I wasn't satisfied with the answer. You did tell me your dad taught you a lot but I don't get it. Did you ever work at another company, school, etc?
Really, you mess around with some serious stuff there kiddo.Ever see anyone else do it? What was it that made the seed sprout? Are you now a full time tree guy?
I am only asking because I find it interesting, not bad, not good just interesting. You know by now if I thought you were a spade I would call you one so if you want ramble on, I am listening.
My definition of a hack is someone who routinley hacks and thinks its good.,like MDS. ( a hearty guffaw)

Ben, maybe thats why you've had 20 jobs (or whatever it was) perhaps you just dont get along with others, or simply cant work with others, hence the 50 foot rope. I mean it seems like you only hear what you want to there buddy! Do ya get what I'm saying dan/ben? whatever. And why would I worry about you judging the quality of my work when you've never even seen it? Moron.
 
Thats good OD, cause I got one that goes over 5" right across the top of my head. I split it open, all the way to the skull, trying to jump into a van at a party, second attempt. Went to surgery, the doc picks up my scalp like and orange peel, washes my skull and sews 3 different layers shut. It looks mean when I shave my head, like a prisoner.

I will see if I can dig up a pic.
 
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Ben, maybe thats why you've had 20 jobs (or whatever it was) perhaps you just dont get along with others, or simply cant work with others, hence the 50 foot rope. I mean it seems like you only hear what you want to there buddy! Do ya get what I'm saying dan/ben? whatever. And why would I worry about you judging the quality of my work when you've never even seen it? Moron.

I did put " a hearty guffaw" at the end of that sentence, moron. seems you had about the same number of employees as I have had jobs BUT the difference is that I am not in the same place as you after 20. By the same place I mean scrounging for groundies and having to pick the bottom of the barrel, getting your poor girl out there to get hurt and making fun of her, asking people how to plant a tree, running around calling myself a master arborist, etc. No my friend, I hear it all.After all these years I still have an open mind. I still get interested... in something besides the cash.
 
Here T-man, put this on the cover of your book. lol I was doing some splittin today and the wife came down to take a peek, so I through up a shot for the new Stihl calender Playgirl style. I eat pretty good these days. The scar on my stomach is from a diaphramatic hernia surgery I had when I was two, lived on one lung for 2 years.

DSCN2018.jpg


Oldirty, before I was married I handled a lot of things different. They call it "settlin down" or something.

I apologize if this is too much, too soon. lol.

Please let me know if you are going to do that again so I can shut my eyes!
 
saw pose and now onto the maul pose.

is that cover material for your book tman? lol

hey nails, chicks dig scars.

I think it would do nicely, not on the cover but certianly a full color page. Thanks for the material Nails. I have to get my buddy over here to show me how to post pics and whatnot. While he is here I will ask if he can send MDS a nice debililatating virus.
 
I would add the 300 mag and 54 cal and 444 marlin all with proper grain
bullets. I also would say anyone should watch the Fred Bear film of him
taking the world record at that time with a recurve great video and I
would like to do it one day. Shot placement absolutely imperative as
well as total scentlessness. Bears don't have the best vision but can
smell better than deer.


Hey Rope, do you handload for your weapons? The .300 win mag can get it done, but I see it on the low end for Griz as far as the frontal mass of the .30cal bullet equalling sufficient stopping power. Take the case capacity of the .300 away and you have a .30-.30 which in my opinion is a recipe for disaster with a griz on the other end. Any rifle I am carrying will be a controlled feed bolt action.

Now the .54 and .44, no question with the right bullets.
 

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