Great idea, I repped ya for that one.
Bucking: What I learned today.
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If you are sometimes slow to notice the kerf closing up, like I am at times, you can run your saw up and down, not too fast, --shaving the kerf wider and then go on. You'll have a little more time to get the bar out. And a little more space to put a wedge in. Oooh, I almost put my cut in where a big slug was. I wonder if slugs gum up the chain? Icky....
Oh, and the guys thought I should get Twinkle some bigger dogs. But I am afraid they'll make Twinkle look more attractive to potential abusers. I'm thinking about it. Can I paint them pink?
Oh, and the guys thought I should get Twinkle some bigger dogs. But I am afraid they'll make Twinkle look more attractive to potential abusers. I'm thinking about it. Can I paint them pink?
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volks-man
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volks-man
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If you are sometimes slow to notice the kerf closing up, like I am at times, you can run your saw up and down, not too fast, --shaving the kerf wider and then go on. You'll have a little more time to get the bar out. And a little more space to put a wedge in. Oooh, I almost put my cut in where a big slug was. I wonder if slugs gum up the chain? Icky....
Oh, and the guys thought I should get Twinkle some bigger dogs. But I am afraid they'll make Twinkle look more attractive to potential abusers. I'm thinking about it. Can I paint them pink?
have them powder coated.
much, much more durable finish.... and 'powder coated' even sounds girly!
ehgauss
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Bucking
I bought a timber jack quite a few years ago to lift logs for bucking. It takes a little longer, and you won't need it for all cuts, but doing it right avoids pinching, sawing dirt and rocks, and if you need to, you can use it as a cant hook or peavey to roll a log that's too heavy to lift after cuts about 3/4 the way through. A worthwhile investment (but don't nick the steel of the jack with the chain - it really makes the next sharpening a challenge).
I bought a timber jack quite a few years ago to lift logs for bucking. It takes a little longer, and you won't need it for all cuts, but doing it right avoids pinching, sawing dirt and rocks, and if you need to, you can use it as a cant hook or peavey to roll a log that's too heavy to lift after cuts about 3/4 the way through. A worthwhile investment (but don't nick the steel of the jack with the chain - it really makes the next sharpening a challenge).
tek9tim
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I thought you were talking about a tree jack at first. You would need a good smacking upside the head if you bought a $1500 dollar tree jack to make a very small problem in bucking go away.
mile9socounty
Two-Stroke Swope
It speaks for itself. 
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That's kind of hard to do on a 100' long Doug fir. We were out cruising-scaling the trees we cut and bucked the other day. It'll be sold to a firewood seller. I had been cutting on 22 to 24 inch diameter stuff, jackstrawed, so no way to buck it other than how it was on the ground or up in the air.
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What is the purpose for a boring cut? I'm 23 and have known how to use a chainsaw for YEARS. Actually my first time with one was when I was 8. But still don't know the do's and don'ts. My hardest problem is bucking a log on the ground and before I can pull the bar out it gets pinched. Anyway to prevent that. Excuse me for my question, I just want to learn how to buck and fall the right way. I don't want to be like that poor sap on youtube that every cut he makes the bar gets pinched. Is there possibly some videos on youtube showing the right way to buck and fall a tree. Oh and one more thing my dad alwayse said it better to ask then to find out the hard way. So please don't knock me for my questions.
Check out the OHSA logging web site. There is a lot of excellent information contained there. Excellent explanation of the various types of felling cuts too.
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/userguide/userguide.html
metalspec
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It speaks for itself.
Looks like a well dressed novice to me.
JT78
ArboristSite Guru
We all have to start somewhere spending as much time with someone with good experience is better than anything else. I dont cut timber for a living just a homeowner but I have been learning from my father in law that was a logger for about 10 years and he has been braking my bad habits and teaching the right way to do things.
volks-man
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It speaks for itself.
is that a child?
Checking roads to see if contractors can get to their units. The snow level is receding up to the higher areas where the woodcutters don't want the blowdown because it is bad stuff. The first hint something was amiss was a pile of beer cans, bottles, and cups. Then Ruh Roh! An ancient old growth mistletoey broomie hemlock was across the road.
Not too big at the road. But the brooms! And the ash! Here's a picture of one of the broomy limbs and I tried to get the caked volcanic ash to show, but to no avail. These trees have lots of ash on them yet. I did sharpen Twinkle prior to cutting.
Here's the :censored: ancient hemlock across the road.
It took 3/4 of a tank of gas, not counting what spilled when the :censored: gas cap came off Twinkle while walking to the tree, just to limb it and make a couple of cuts. I cut the limbs, which were worse on the backside of the tree and left the main part till the 3-4 foot glacier melts underneath. That'll be a couple of days now that the glacier is daylighted.
There are nice views from up there.
But it does rain all the time and I photo shopped the sunlight into all the pictures.
Not too big at the road. But the brooms! And the ash! Here's a picture of one of the broomy limbs and I tried to get the caked volcanic ash to show, but to no avail. These trees have lots of ash on them yet. I did sharpen Twinkle prior to cutting.
Here's the :censored: ancient hemlock across the road.
It took 3/4 of a tank of gas, not counting what spilled when the :censored: gas cap came off Twinkle while walking to the tree, just to limb it and make a couple of cuts. I cut the limbs, which were worse on the backside of the tree and left the main part till the 3-4 foot glacier melts underneath. That'll be a couple of days now that the glacier is daylighted.
There are nice views from up there.
But it does rain all the time and I photo shopped the sunlight into all the pictures.
forestryworks
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thanks for sharing the pics slowp
they only make the itch to move to the PNW worse
they only make the itch to move to the PNW worse
drmiller100
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It speaks for itself.
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a 6 minute video showing 60 seconds of work.
learn to sharpen the chain.
The rule to move here is this. You must make two people move away, if only you want to move here. If there are two of you, you must make 3 people move away. And, remember, we have way more drizzly days than sunny. We're supposed to get more rain and coolness this week. You can't get to the high country due to 5 or more feet of snow still there. Last week at this time I could bring out a calendar and point out the last sunny days, that's how rare they've been. It is steep steep ground mostly. And not many logging jobs right now although I did see a couple ads for "experienced shovel operator and rigging slinger". I'll try the same road from the other side sometime soon. It has a scary drop off part that probably still has snow on it.
Tazman1602
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What is the purpose for a boring cut? I'm 23 and have known how to use a chainsaw for YEARS. Actually my first time with one was when I was 8. But still don't know the do's and don'ts. My hardest problem is bucking a log on the ground and before I can pull the bar out it gets pinched. Anyway to prevent that. Excuse me for my question, I just want to learn how to buck and fall the right way. I don't want to be like that poor sap on youtube that every cut he makes the bar gets pinched. Is there possibly some videos on youtube showing the right way to buck and fall a tree. Oh and one more thing my dad alwayse said it better to ask then to find out the hard way. So please don't knock me for my questions.
No knocks pops. It's a common thing. You have to get the bar out of the kerf before the log pinches it -- only way to do that is to watch the kerf and when it starts to close get the bar out. You can do this on several cuts and then roll the log over and finish the cut.
I see someone also posted that a small plastic wedge will prevent this and I am RUNNING to the store to get a couple to try this.
Sometimes if I"ve got the log supported at both ends with other logs I'll come up from underneath and make the cut, I"m not sure this is a safe practice but I've been doing it for 30 years and know when I"m in trouble....in which case I let the bar get pinched and worry about it later...
The wedge idea sounds really, really nice though. I'll try to let you know if it works OK for me.
redprospector
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Several years ago I sent my daughter & ex-son-in-law the money to move back home. Would that count for my 2 if I'm ever so inclined?
Andy
You can have my nice small, red one if you can find it. I reached for it Sunday and nowhere to be found. Recalled using it to avoid a pinch a few days before but not to be found. That is number 3 I have planted but a crop failure on all of them. Making due with the 2 big yellow ones now.
Harry K
