A good trimming saw for $100?? Ryobi 10532 Review

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II have doubts on that Roybi holding up, atleast if the 180 didn't you could take it back under warrenty. Not saying either one is built better, because they are both cheap saws, but I got a lot more trust in the Stihl if problems arise.

Stihl parts availability is definately a plus. However, this Ryobi is build much stronger than the Stihl. I have a lot more detail on this in the other small saw thread I did. Price wise, this is a throw away saw. Construction wise, it is not. Don't let the plasticky shell fool you.
 
I got a new one delivered to my door for $109. Maybe I should grab 3-4 more for parts? As Brad's review no doubt sparked sales of the "refurbished" units considerably!

You just can't beat the price, a decent bar and chain will cost at least $30, it's like buying the saw for $79.

I'll be doing some timed cuts as soon as it quits raining here against our Husqvarna 435, and will post the results.....Cliff

I nearly bought one myself, knowing that there would be an increase in sales. I think I'm holding out for a GZ4500 though:)

I'm anxious to see how it does agains the Husky.
 
Stihl parts availability is definately a plus. However, this Ryobi is build much stronger than the Stihl. I have a lot more detail on this in the other small saw thread I did. Price wise, this is a throw away saw. Construction wise, it is not. Don't let the plasticky shell fool you.

Plastic doesn't bother me at all and if that Roybi lasts, then good for them. I don't see them being a big hit though.
 
Also, I'm still curious about the China business, and disappointed. Even if this saw uses a Zenoah cylinder and a Redmax design, is it not possible that a Chinese company bought a license to produce the design, perhaps bought some parts as well? I haven't seen many Redmaxes, but I thought they were all made in Japan. If some Redmax models are now made in China that seems like a significant shift. Does everyone's Ryobi say Made in China? Anyone have a Redmax G400; where was it made?

Jack


If I am not mistaken the Ryobi is a Redmax model GZ400 (Homeowner) which is assembled in China from Japanese and Chinese parts. The Sears Professional is a Remadmax GZ4000 (Commercial)and is made in Japan.

I think the only major differences are a little more sturdy design on the 4000 and you get a longer warranty. It also costs quite a bit more than the 400. I have never handled the 400, but the other Redmax saws I have seen are quite nice.
 
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O.K. so I ordered one too.. saved me money actually... I was eyeing a MS361 just "because" and now I just bought a saw so I don't need another one for at least two weeks. Plus now I can sell my 242XP and my never used MS180C :)


2Door
 
I've been working with these little saws for a little over two months now.The ice storm that hit this area in Feb. brought a lot of saws out of storage and sold a lot of new ones.From what experience I've had with them,they are a very good saw.The weak points have been covered (crazy-wack fuel line and super restricted muffler)and addressed.I have noticed that running the stock "safety" chain will create a lot of dust that finds its way into the carb box.I think the reason so much dust gets in there is because the carb box is too tightly sealed.The only real opening to the outside is through the carb screw adjustment holes.I think that situation is creating a high negative pressure that pulls the dust in since it is so light and fine.
I've been looking at ways to free up the airflow into the box,that would stop the "fines" from accumulating and free up the other side on the engine.Modding the muffler really brings them to life,modding the carb box to ease the airflow should also show some improvement.
Any ideas?
 
I forgot to mention that when I sharpened the chain on ours, I used a cut off wheel to grind off the safety feature on the links between the cutters. BIG wake-up call for that chain, as it wasn't cutting very well even after I dropped the rakers a bit.

I would also mention that the defective vent on ours was easy to access and repair, it's right under the carburetor once you get the cover out of the way. The top just pops off of it, and the rubber insert was smashed too deep. Raised in slightly, tested it, popped the top back on back in business....Cliff
 
I don't have any other saws with these tamper-proof carb adjustment screws. What a pain in the tuckus. Is there a standard tool for these things or is every manufacturer different?

Ryobi and Homelite use that double D thing. Husky/Poulan is splined. Then there's the "Pac-Man" style and the single D.

The Homelite number for the driver is 308535002.
I got one on ebay for about $6 delivered. That was after I wasted time slotting the screws (in situ, because I couldn't get them out before slotting them). I can adjust a running engine with the factory driver, but not with a straight blade driver in homemade slots. Ebay price is closer to $7 now, postage went up last month.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270374905380

Last I knew, CPO Ryobi sold them for $99.95, but only through Amazon. I bought mine direct from CPO Ryobi in January and got that price. Been waiting for them to hit $90 to buy a few more, new demand from this thread will probably destroy that dream.
 
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Okay, I spent some time with the Ryobi today. I was not predisposed to like this saw. Perhaps the distinction between made in Japan and made in China is unnecessarily fine so far as the US economy is concerned, but I didn't want a saw from China, I'm sick of not being able to find anything to buy that isn't made in China. I went today to buy a glove to play catch with my daughter, and one after the other was made in China. Ball gloves! I think there was one for $179 that was made in the USA. Finally I bought one from Thailand. Sigh.

Anyway, the saw. It's easy to handle, works well. Lots of features for the price. Anti-vibe springs? Oooh, you're a big saw, yes you ARE. Chain brake check, push, nothing. Is it a dummy? Push harder. CLICK!!! Man, that's a stiff chain brake, not sure kickback could engage it. Coughed in three pulls, fired in one, straight out of the box. Tuning was quite good, great idle, throttle response, four-stroking coming out of a cut. I cut for almost a whole tank, cut up a bunch of limbs for the brush pile from a locust that came down yesterday. Bucked a pile of limbs about thigh size. Moved on to some logs that I'd planned to buck up with my MS660. With a 16" bar and Woodland Pro WPL chain, it cut very well. Lots of cuts with the bar buried, not particularly easy to stall. The fuel pickup was not an issue, saw ran with no hiccups until I stopped with very little fuel in the tank. Oiling was fine. Fuel and oil caps are small, but they didn't come off or leak.

Despite my prejudice, I can't find anything to complain about, especially considering the price. OK, I think the chain brake is probably too stiff to do any good, there are some tingly vibes despite the AV springs. But it started beyond easily, ran flawlessly, and pulled a 16" bar and low profile chain just fine, without mods. It's FAR less cheesy and FAR better equipped than a comparably priced Poulan. Durability? It's got Zenoah guts, and my Redmax has been reliable. Time will tell, I suppose it could stop running tomorrow. After all, these units that got reconditioned had to come from somewhere. But it occurred to me as I bucked a couple of logs that I had to chew from both sides and just barely met in the middle that if I absolutely had to, I could do the whole locust with this saw, and a typical homeowner, if he didn't run old mix or let it sit all year with fuel in it, might never need anything more. If everything were the same except it were made in the USA I'd be doing cartwheels over it instead of sitting here pondering.

Jack

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Man, that's a stiff chain brake, not sure kickback could engage it.

Mine engages easily, but I have to pull it hard against the handlebar to disengage it, and sometimes it reactivates when I let go of the lever. Hope there's some kind of adjustment there, but it's probably just the kind of inconsistent quality that the Chinese make for those cheap Americans. (a Chinese Army SKS is a nice little battle rifle, an export model SKS is a piece of crap made to sell in quantity for $35 each)

Got to say my Husky 36 is the best small saw chain brake that I've handled. Flick the wrist, it's on. Tug with one finger and it's off. With my Husky there's no need to let go of the handlebar so I can make the brake lever touch the bar.
 

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