Here's something to consider about firewood and it's measurement.
First of all a cord is only a cord when the dimensions are 4 x4x8 and the pieces are 4'long.
Here's the complicated part, so bear with me.
Most can agree that a cord is also 4 rows of twelve inch wood 8' long, or 3 rows of 16" wood 8' long, but it isn't, because those exact lengths will occupy quite a bit more than 128 cubic feet.
I'm not trying to split hairs, but if a truck is 128 cubic, it's humanely impossible to stack 3 rows of 16" wood within a 128cf space. It might if the wood was 14.5 to 15" long.
So, when is a cord a cord, except when it's 4x4x8, only when the pieces are 4'long?
Gypo
2009 Minnesota Statutes
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* Weights and Measures
* Wood and Wood Products
239.33 STANDARD MEASUREMENTS OF WOOD.
In all contracts for sale of wood the term "cord" shall mean 128 cubic feet of wood, bark, and air, if cut in four-foot lengths; and if the sale is of "sawed wood," a cord shall mean 110 cubic feet when ranked, or 160 cubic feet when thrown irregularly or loosely into a conveyance for delivery to the purchaser; and if the sale is of "sawed and split wood," a cord shall mean 120 cubic feet, when ranked, and 175 cubic feet when thrown irregularly and loosely into a conveyance for delivery. If a measurement is made by weight, the term "cord" or any other term used to describe freshly cut wood shall be based on 79 cubic feet of solid wood content per cord. The weight per cord may vary by species or species group. In case of any dispute when the parties have not otherwise agreed in writing to the weight per cord by species or species group, the weight most recently established by the commissioner of natural resources prevails.
Here's something to consider about firewood and it's measurement.
First of all a cord is only a cord when the dimensions are 4 x4x8 and the pieces are 4'long.
Here's the complicated part, so bear with me.
Most can agree that a cord is also 4 rows of twelve inch wood 8' long, or 3 rows of 16" wood 8' long, but it isn't, because those exact lengths will occupy quite a bit more than 128 cubic feet.
I'm not trying to split hairs, but if a truck is 128 cubic, it's humanely impossible to stack 3 rows of 16" wood within a 128cf space. It might if the wood was 14.5 to 15" long.
So, when is a cord a cord, except when it's 4x4x8, only when the pieces are 4'long?
Gypo
tnxm, what your missing, is that there is not a machine or man that can cut perfectly square 16" wood, then stack 3 rows of it and expect it will be 48", even stacking with a sledge it will be at least 10% more volume.While math is not my strong suit, im seeing some problems here. Okay lets see here 4x4x8 is 128CF no doubt about that. If you go 3 rows of 16 inch peice it comes out to 48 inchs 48in/12in=4ft. I see no problem with 3 rows of 16? Im i missing something here?
I hear ya Steve. LolGypo, thanks for making it more difficult!
What's more, the hairbrained state across the St Croix River from me makes it more convoluted yet:
From https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=239.33
Anyone else confused yet?
I said "we got and are getting" bout a foot and a half mr. persnikity
I think we had four down, we got 10 last night and today (I am in N. suburbs) and we expect to get maybe 3 over night. That adds up to close to a foot and a half in my book.
Here is a current look out the back door....
tnxm, what your missing, is that there is not a machine or man that can cut perfectly square 16" wood, then stack 3 rows of it and expect it will be 48", even stacking with a sledge it will be at least 10% more volume.
Gypo
yeah.. I surrender. I'll take my cords to be a tightly stacked shackle of firewood that measures 4x4x8 or occupies 128 cubic feet in any other fashion. With 5-10 cubic feet thrown in for good measure. I don't think another cord will go in my truck this season. Next chance though: photos pre-load;loaded; unloaded and stacked. with some sort of sticky wicket for scale. That's how it'll be here. regards.
No I agree 100%, you just lost Here
"but if a truck is 128 cubic, it's humanely impossible to stack 3 rows of 16" wood within a 128cf space. It might if the wood was 14.5 to 15" long."
Im in no way shape or form trying to argue with you, i just dont understand. Im in college for Criminolgy and Prelaw havent had a math course in 5 years
all the objections are based on degree of air space which will exist to some degree on every 128 cubic foot of stacking no matter what. If you have a gallon filled with sand do you have a gallon of sand? Lot of air space in there.
(but then the def of sand includes air space doesn't it?)
tnxm, what your missing, is that there is not a machine or man that can cut perfectly square 16" wood, then stack 3 rows of it and expect it will be 48", even stacking with a sledge it will be at least 10% more volume.
Gypo
I can do it
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