treevet
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bid some high and some low to get it becuase you know you got it.
Jeff
you got who you thought you would get?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIztKmMeiek
bid some high and some low to get it becuase you know you got it.
Jeff
"Occasionally I visit this site to see if anything of interest is happening in my neck of the woods and low and behold something appeared that tweaked my interest. I am compelled to respond to the latest mundane chatter that seems to always originate from someone in the Cincinnati, OH area. My comment, being a lowly hillbilly and probably not a personal acquaintance of the Cincinnati Chatterer's research associates, would be that a lot of sour grapes come from this individuals fingertips. What amuses me most about his/her diatribe is the venomous quantities of ineptness that this person bestows on companies that are extremely successful; the most likely explanation for those "barbs" relate to jealousy. Companies who care will take jobs at "cost" just to keep their employees employed during the nasty days of winter. Smile "big company" in the end you will win the ETHICAL AWARD!
Turned out I didn't get this job from a regular client. I bid 2100.00 and since the guy was moving I guess he felt like getting a 2nd bid since our relationship is over.
He told me DAVEY TREE bid half of what I bid. I told him that was a comical price and since I live a few streets from it will be enjoyable to watch them lose their ass on the job. The guy wasn't a jerk about it just said money was a factor here. Man, no room for me to say hey I will come down some either so time to say thanks for calling and best of luck with your move.
I looked at this bid as 1. Job HAD to have a crane.....2. Huge uprooted 9'dia stump that who knows if the bottom roots on this healthy tree are still attached (and real thick and underground)....and 3. It HAD to be done by Sunday open house for selling it.
These things add up to me as "premium price". Also 4. the involvement with 4 foot dia by 50 feet solid oak pieces and the dirt filled root ball.
DAVEY TREE salesman did not see the obvious. Prob a desk jockey.
They were at the job at 8 oclock today with 4 men at least, a forestry unit chip truck with bucket, chipper, huge knuckle boom crane truck, pickup on a very tight street. By noon the truck was completely full of the top of the tree and the huge stem was still there as was the root ball at 4 oclock when they left.
They have an hour traveling time in highway traffic each way to their lot in Milford. That is 10 hours times 4 men or 40 man hours and they have most of the day tomorrow (if they are lucky and the root ball pulls out easily) not to mention all the huge boulders of stem to deal with (no lumber quality here and too big to get on a splitter) when they get back to their lot.
Hate to lose a job when it is your cultivated client, but if you do....makes you feel a little better when they take a major azz whipping on the job.
Cheers Davey. Who knows what they are doing....the small established guy....or the big box national company? There are only so many nice jobs around in the winter and they just totally ruined this one.
There are two ways to look at it. As you know, your charge rate is the sum of variable costs (labour, fuel, sub contracts etc) and fixed costs (equipment leases, insurance, etc). One philosophy is that each job has to pay it's share of variable and fixed costs. The second philosophy is that a job only has to pay variable costs and a portion of the fixed costs.
Often in periods of slow work, companies will bid only to make variable costs as a way of keeping employees working. If you have enough retained earnings, you can keep operating this way for short periods of time.
any of you mutts got facebook? check out marquis tree service. some sweet action shots and a couple vids. become a fan if you'd like! good stuff.
any of you mutts got facebook? check out marquis tree service. some sweet action shots and a couple vids. become a fan if you'd like! good stuff.
I guess you told me a thing or 2 Hanks. 1 post in 2 years and I am blessed with being the subject of your intellectual judgment. Hey an idiotic underbid is an idiotic bid. You must be a Davey boy guarding the roost. Go back into the hills and stew for a couple more years til you come up with another gem.
Do want to liven up this old thread, treevet? What I saw was every-day stuff and a bored guy with the cable t.v. out thinking he would look cool!!
Do you need some company or a pat on the back? What pics are you going to show us tomorrow? Can't wait till next week!! Well, you did bring it up.
Jeff, looking forward to tomorrow.
just messing with ya---am I?
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