jeepyfz450
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Lol yeah but they would need somebody that could safely run a saw so i would have to volunteer my time...... we could tackle a few more chainsaw myths aswell.
The MS261 is here!!
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I am fascinated about all the questions and finally pizzing and moaning about "he didn't do this" or "he didn't do that" or whatever minor criticisms and observations of non-perfection can be leveled at someone who has done an fantastic job of sharing very cool testing results on a new piece of equipment most of us haven't even seen in person. (my English teacher would be proud of this too-long sentence)
If, for example, I don't like the testing that's been done so far, then maybe I should get my own set of stock and modded saws and test them myself.
If, for example, I don't like the testing methodology and results, then maybe I should get my own dyno too.
Asking someone else to live out your testing fantasies seems to be symptomatic of some unhealthy mental process.
just sayin'
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And yes (for the observant), I am now whining about the whiners.
I am fascinated about all the questions and finally pizzing and moaning about "he didn't do this" or "he didn't do that" or whatever minor criticisms and observations of non-perfection can be leveled at someone who has done an fantastic job of sharing very cool testing results on a new piece of equipment most of us haven't even seen in person. (my English teacher would be proud of this too-long sentence)
If, for example, I don't like the testing that's been done so far, then maybe I should get my own set of stock and modded saws and test them myself.
If, for example, I don't like the testing methodology and results, then maybe I should get my own dyno too.
Asking someone else to live out your testing fantasies seems to be symptomatic of some unhealthy mental process.
just sayin'
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And yes (for the observant), I am now whining about the whiners.
CentaurG2
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Karma Police, arrest this man, he speaks in maths…..
What a fantastic thread!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZHoci2Wjs0
You missed the point by a mile jeepy. Go back and read what I wrote.
Here...I'll save you the trip:
edisto said:
All I'm talking about what can be said from what was done, and how to best report the results from what was done. I also suggested an improvement to the testing procedure that requires no additional work and can be used for future efforts.
It's all about putting things in perspective.
It all boils down to the following, as stated earlier.
- The MS261 is the strongest stock 50cc saw I've ever ran. Great torque and speed right out of the box.
- A MM made significant gains. WOT RPM was no higher, but added to the already impressive torque of the saw, allowing it to hold more RPMs in the wood.
- Advancing the ignition timing is an important piece of the puzzle to getting the most out of the saw.
- The final porting made a big difference. The saw does not become peaky in the least. It's still super torquey, all across the powerband.
- Without a stopwatch, the big carb can not really be notice. However, it does make a significant difference in timed cuts. It's just not really felt when simply working the saw.
- De-stratofying the saw was a must to get the power in the saw. I wouldn't waste my time porting one without this.
- How does it compare to the 346? Chain speed is obviously very similiar, since cuts times are so close. But the 261 feels stronger. It's less peaky with more bottom end grunt. I have not had a 20" B&C on the 346 yet, but believe the 261 will start to walk away from it.
- The 261 has much higher compression potential than the 346. This is likely what gives it that extra "grunt", and allows it to pull a longer than normal bar for a 50cc saw.
- Althought throttle response is excellent on the 261, the 346 still seems better. It's just unreal on a 346.
- I'm sure there's more to add here. This is just what comes to mind.
CentaurG2
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I am sure it is just an anomaly.
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One advantage of the strato is decreased fuel consumption with some willing to loose this for increased performance.
A reasonable level of porting with no muffler mod will increase the heat potential.
Brad is entitled to thread his findings regardless of what some of us may make of it just as Edisto is entitled to his input.
Lock it? why?
Last thing we need is overmoderating!
A reasonable level of porting with no muffler mod will increase the heat potential.
Brad is entitled to thread his findings regardless of what some of us may make of it just as Edisto is entitled to his input.
Lock it? why?
Last thing we need is overmoderating!JJuday
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The "King" is what ever saw fits your budget and fulfills it's role to YOUR greatest potential because as limbing goes the user is the bottleneck, not the saw. I can only cut so much before I have to set it down and move brush and small rounds.
The most important thing here is that the 261 is NOT a re-hashed version of the 260, but a real attempt of Stihl's to bring their 50cc pro saw into the 21st century.
Thank you Brad for taking the time, spending the money and more than likely pissing off the neighbors at all hours of the night just to bring us the latest and greatest. No matter what anyone's conclusions of Brad's testing/results may be HE is the only one who has taken the time and spent the money to do it. If you have not ordered your own 261 and do not have any intentions of doing so to do your own evaluations and tests then kindly S.T.F.U.
I personally can wait for Husqvarna's response to this saw and I hope it's soon as it keeps things interesting around here. JJuday
Lock it? why?
Everything in moderation. Including moderating.
And moderation.
Agreed,
Even though strato saws are the wave of the future it doesn't necessarily mean they are better, just that they satisfy EPA pollution requirements. Otherwise I see no advantage to them.
Trigger-Time
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I havn't follwed this thread for couple of days........WOW!
Bad MS261 news on my end, Dealer talked to Stihl Rep.
Rep said it may be Feb 2011 before he gets any in.
Dealer tried to get just one released for me, he even
told Rep the guy that wants one (me). Has bought
17 new units from him and that I would get someone
in another state to get one and he would loose a sale.
The Stihl distributor for our area doesn't even have any yet!
Anyone from Missouri know of any 261's in the state?
TT
Bad MS261 news on my end, Dealer talked to Stihl Rep.
Rep said it may be Feb 2011 before he gets any in.
Dealer tried to get just one released for me, he even
told Rep the guy that wants one (me). Has bought
17 new units from him and that I would get someone
in another state to get one and he would loose a sale.
The Stihl distributor for our area doesn't even have any yet!
Anyone from Missouri know of any 261's in the state?
TT
Slamm
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Western Kentucky can't get them yet either. I want one.
Sam
Sam
atvguns
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Anyone from Missouri know of any 261's in the state?
TT[/QUOTE]
I havent found any yet:bang::bang: . I guess we can send a truck out to get some Kinda a black market thing:hmm3grin2orange:
TT[/QUOTE]
I havent found any yet:bang::bang: . I guess we can send a truck out to get some Kinda a black market thing:hmm3grin2orange:
Trigger-Time
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I havent found any yet:bang::bang: . I guess we can send a truck out to get some Kinda a black market thing:hmm3grin2orange:[/QUOTE]
Well maybe a road trip is in order!
Some good soul did make a offer a week or so back.
I cleaned up my pm's yesterday and I have CRS!
TT
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Hutson's dont have any?
Slamm
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No, and I told him that the Ohio guys were getting them and he can't understand, because that is where his "supplier" is located. He can't even get a price yet, so as to get me a price, cause I want one for a skidder saw. Bert takes the modded 260 on the ATV for a backup saw, and I have to use the 361, which is fine, but I liked that little saw, LOL.
Sam
I'm not doing anything special to get them from my dealer. Our distributor is Ryan equipment. I've bought 5 of them now. They show up the day after I order them, since we're super close to the distributor.
Slamm
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I'm telling my guy this and going to see whats up, its also is going to take until early December to get me 2 441 fuel tanks.
Later,
Sam
