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[WidowMaker1]

you probably belong in jail like the rest of us hillbilly jokers norm .lol ...I'm heading of into the shed to play with my 302Windsor :msp_thumbup: hope ya well friend ...remember to keep ya ass to the wall in jail ,I mean facebook :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[NORMZILLA44]

LOL! I will, and what is a 302 Windsor? engine? If so I heard of the ford 302 but never heard reference of a windsor. I know the 351 had what the Cleveland Windsor, and one more I thought. So they had a 302 windsor?

 

[Eccentric]

Ford V8 Engines....

LOL! I will, and what is a 302 Windsor? engine? If so I heard of the ford 302 but never heard reference of a windsor. I know the 351 had what the Cleveland Windsor, and one more I thought. So they had a 302 windsor?

-The 221/260/289/302/5.0L/351W/5.8L are all part of the 'windsor' family. There's some parts interchangability between them. The Boss 302 was a high RPM engine with "Cleveland like" heads (in 1969 and 1970 only). This series was built from 1961 through 1994 IIRC.

-There was also the 351C "Cleveland", and the 351M. The 351/400M engines ('M' stands for Modified) were the slow, boat anchor versions of the Cleveland. They can be built up well, but were DOGS stock. The C/M engines were also known as the 335 family. These were built from 1969 through 1980 or so IIRC.

-The 429/460 engines were also known as the 385 family, and were bigger brothers to the C/M engines. Built from 1968 or so through 1990ish (whenever the EFI version was dropped from the pickup line).

-The 332/352/360/390/391/406/410/427/428 engines were all part of the Mighty FE family. Think 428SCJ Mustamgs and 427 Shelby Cobras. Built from 1958 or so through the late '70s.

-Then there were the old 272/292/312 'Y' block engines built from 1954 through 1962 or so. Think 55-57 T-Birds, a few of which had Paxton/McCulloch Superchargers........yes the SAME McCulloch!

-Before those were the flatheads. 1932 through 1954.

-The latest are the SOHC and DOHC V8's. There's the modulars and whatever the 'new' 5.0L engine series is called. Aaron don't know jack about those...

 

[wsg]

-The 221/260/289/302/5.0L/351W/5.8L are all part of the 'windsor' family. There's some parts interchangability between them. The Boss 302 was a high RPM engine with "Cleveland like" heads (in 1969 and 1970 only). This series was built from 1961 through 1994 IIRC.

-There was also the 351C "Cleveland", and the 351M. The 351/400M engines ('M' stands for Modified) were the slow, boat anchor versions of the Cleveland. They can be built up well, but were DOGS stock. The C/M engines were also known as the 335 family. These were built from 1969 through 1980 or so IIRC.

-The 429/460 engines were also known as the 385 family, and were bigger brothers to the C/M engines. Built from 1968 or so through 1990ish (whenever the EFI version was dropped from the pickup line).

-The 332/35S2/360/390/391/406/410/427/428 engines were all part of the Mighty FE family. Think 428SCJ Mustamgs and 427 Shelby Cobras. Built from 1958 or so through the late '70s.

-Then there were the old 272/292/312 'Y' block engines built from 1954 through 1962 or so. Think 55-57 T-Birds, a few of which had Paxton/McCulloch Superchargers........yes the SAME McCulloch!

-Before those were the flatheads. 1932 through 1954.

-The latest are the SOHC and DOHC V8's. There's the modulars and whatever the 'new' 5.0L engine series is called. Aaron don't know jack about those...

Really nice post! I'm a mustang guy too.. Fan of the Windsor blocks AND FE stuff too!

 

[Eccentric]

Really nice post! I'm a mustang guy too.. Fan of the Windsor blocks AND FE stuff too!

Thanks! I've been a Ford nut for decades. Now I'm mostly into old IHC iron. The 'modern' everyday stuff we own is all Ford though. The messed up part is that my head's full of useless info like what I posted above. Important (boring) things don't stick. I almost can't remember my own name half the time.....

 

[WidowMaker1]

View attachment 222194 yeah norm the 302 Windsor is a bullet proof old school all Iron V8. Here's me now toy :cool2: Fuel Injected 302 Windsor Muscle, Aussie 1997 Ford Fairlane Ghia,

car was delivered a few weeks ago, it was well looked after by a retired couple and never flogged, and always garaged. Its bloody Immaculate only got 140000km on the clock. and #### me she hammers throws ya right back into the seat :biggrin:

 

[Eccentric]

Wasn't there an Oz specific truck 302 block at some point? I think I remember hearing/reading something about them in the '80s. Was supposed to be tougher, and less prone to core shift and cracking IIRC...

 

[Eccentric]

I mentioned the Boss 302 earlier. Those were available here in the US in 1969-1970. That was done to make that beast legal for Trans-Am racing. Not talking about the recent over the counter Ford Racing blocks either. I was refering to an Australian Ford produced 302 block for medium/heavy duty trucks. Maybe it was just an "urban legend" here in the US...

 

[WidowMaker1]

umm. you might be right its probably the same block used for the boss. there is the Boss 302 which is a hybrid which uses a modded 302 windsor block and clevo heads Ford Boss 302 engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia thats what there using in Aussie Ford V8 supercar's (Bathurst) V8 Supercars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ...You can buy a few variants of the windsor 302 from Ford Racing as a crate engine Crate Engines, Mustang Engines, Drag Racing Engines, Stock Car Engines, Funny Car Engins, Race Engines, Racing Engines - Ford Racing Performance Parts either way when you set up the stock production 302 block with 302 GT40 heads your pulling 340HP easy, & with a few tweaks & $$$ anything's possible!! the ford V8 supercars are getting over 600 + BHP from a 302 (5L) based race motor. There is a ton of history of the windsor 302, its the back bone of one of the greatest V8's ever, the Windsor and clevo's are awesome motors there the ultimate building block to winning race power

 

[WidowMaker1]

yeah I now what ya saying eccentric ...it rings a bell the 302 truck block ,but i cant put a finger on it ....need a little research i guess .lol

 

[andydodgegeek]

Thats enough of this ford talk.

 

[Eccentric]

Thats enough of this ford talk.

Would you like me to start rattling on about IHC instead???

 

[jockeydeuce]

Would you like me to start rattling on about IHC instead???

Sure!!! You haven't lived until you stomp your foot on the loud pedal of an IH Scout with a 392, 4BBL!!!

 

[Eccentric]

Sure!!! You haven't lived until you stomp your foot on the loud pedal of an IH Scout with a 392, 4BBL!!!

I have a 4V 392 in my 1971 IHC 1210 3/4 Ton 4-Door 4WD pickup. IHC called their 4-Door pickups "Travelettes". Has an O/D 5-speed manual. A LONG TERM project. I have posted pics of it in the Old Iron thread within the F/L forum. Also have posted some pics of McCullochs on the hood of that big green beast. My Scouts have a 304 V8 and a 196 I4 (half of a 392).

 

[Jon1212]

I sent dh1984 a link to this thread, I figure he might be able to shed some light on this topic......................no need to thank me fellas, it's what I do...........LOL!!!!

 

[jockeydeuce]

I have a 4V 392 in my 1971 IHC 1210 3/4 Ton 4-Door 4WD pickup. IHC called their 4-Door pickups "Travelettes". Has an O/D 5-speed manual. A LONG TERM project. I have posted pics of it in the Old Iron thread within the F/L forum. Also have posted some pics of McCullochs on the hood of that big green beast. My Scouts have a 304 V8 and a 196 I4 (half of a 392).

On the other end of the power spectrum, I had a '79 scout with the factory Nissan diesel.....Couldn't kill that thing, but wanted to stick a leg out sometimes on the hills and start kickin' skateboard style....Talk about gutless!!!

My Dad had an IH dealership from '69 thru '75.......I'm very familiar with that old iron!!:msp_thumbsup:

 

[Eccentric]

On the other end of the power spectrum, I had a '79 scout with the factory Nissan diesel.....Couldn't kill that thing, but wanted to stick a leg out sometimes on the hills and start kickin' skateboard style....Talk about gutless!!!

My Dad had an IH dealership from '69 thru '75.......I'm very familiar with that old iron!!:msp_thumbsup:

I knew there was something I liked about you Rob. Do you have any of the service literature (or parts/signs/whatever) left over from the dealership? That SD33 Nissan is a good engine, but slow. The 1980-only SD33T (Turbo) Scouts had more poop. They used the same turbocharger as the TD Mercedes cars. The 196 I4 in my 67 Scout 800 isn't a speed demon either, but it'll lug down to about 200RPM and chug along like a tractor. Great engine. Shares most of the 'bolt on' parts from the 392. The valve cover has both firing orders stamped into it...

 

[jockeydeuce]

You mean this sorta crap.......:hmm3grin2orange:

Got the whole parts library on fiche too.......

Not much left in signs, etc.......I do have a mountain of the old IH parts bags (Paper).

We're way off topic now....back to 2100's and other muscle saws!!

 

[Eccentric]

You mean this sorta crap.......:hmm3grin2orange:


Got the whole parts library on fiche too.......


Not much left in signs, etc.......I do have a mountain of the old IH parts bags (Paper).

We're way off topic now....back to 2100's and other muscle saws!!

Holy crap!

Please keep me in mind if you ever decide to part with any of that stuff Rob.

 

[paccity]

You mean this sorta crap.......:hmm3grin2orange:

Got the whole parts library on fiche too.......

Not much left in signs, etc.......I do have a mountain of the old IH parts bags (Paper).

We're way off topic now....back to 2100's and other muscle saws!!

ha ! i think someone just wet himself.