Which ported 50cc saw

[Andyshine77]

I'm going to guess the people that actually work on saws for a living care. Also, in this case, the "truth" you and Brad are quoting as fact seems to be your opinion and especially in Brads' case, does not seem to take reality into account.



No, what he said and what Randy was commenting on was that they are not worth the cost to have ported. You surely saw that, you even liked the post. If getting a 40% gain isn't worth $250 then it seems that Brad is guaranteeing that all his port jobs will be significantly better than that or they'll be free. Because he won't take someone's money for a gain of that amount, correct?

??? Brad said he couldn't get the gains he'd like from a 550 and wouldn't take anyone's money because of that fact. That sounds like a stand up thing to do if you ask me. Randy said himself the 550 couldn't outrun the 346, so I'm not sure what you're saying there. I will give Randy the fact it was a new saw and that can, and does make a difference.

 

[wigglesworth]

What about after we get our chain dialed in? I've been hand filing square-ground chain since I was high school.

Man, You've been square filing for like 57 years!!

 

[thomas1]

??? Brad said he couldn't get the gains he'd like from a 550 and wouldn't take anyone's money because of that fact. That sounds like a stand up thing to do if you ask me. Randy said himself the 550 couldn't outrun the 346, so I'm not sure what you're saying there. I will give Randy the fact it was a new saw and that can, and does make a difference.

No, what he said is that most of the gains for that saw are in a muffler mod (which he will happily take someone's money for) and that he is above taking someone's money for a port job because the gains aren't that significant and he is to good take someone's hard earned money for an insignificant gain.

Is a 40%+ gain significant? That's what you and he are saying and Brad is saying that he wouldn't take someone's money for that amount of gain. I guess every saw that he has ported has improved much more than that, when are the refunds being issued for the saws that haven't improved 50%? That would be the stand up thing to do, right?

 

[Jacob J.]

Man, You've been square filing for like 57 years!!

lol...thanks...I think. umpkin2:

 

[Dennis Cahoon]

Man, You've been square filing for like 57 years!!

Hey JJ.......could you help out Brad on this one. He needs someone to run a file across these teeth and make'm "sharp"......Hahahahahahaha!

 

[Andyshine77]

Is a 40%+ gain significant?

No! not when the bulk of that comes from a simple MM. At this point I don't see the value in porting a 550, but like I said that can change. I own a MM 346 that I could port anytime I please for free,:msp_wink: however I choose not to because it runs that well, I simply feel the same about the 550.

 

[H 2 H]

I'm glad I got up to have a midnight snack - a piece of pie :msp_wink:


JMO

 

[thomas1]

No! not when the bulk of that comes from a simple MM. At this point I don't see the value in porting a 550, but like I said that can change. I own a MM 346 that I could port anytime I please for free,:msp_wink: however I choose not to because it runs that well, I simply feel the same about the 550.

What percentage of the gains come from a MM? I'm sure you being able to port you're own saw for free, any time you want, is extremely helpful to someone looking to send theirs off. By your logic in this post 346's shouldn't be ported either because they are strong enough stock. So, your advice on the best saw to port is none? Just muffler mod and be done?

 

[J_Arena]

This thread should have been called............... Bring on the Crybabies................. The tread was suppose to be about which ported 50cc saw OLD or NEW. Now it should be called..................... "Can you make gains on a 550 when it is ported". Who cares!! Porting is overrated..........

 

[DSS]

Where the hell is Durand?? We need the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamalamps again.

 

[komatsuvarna]

Durand, I take no joy in having people upset with me. I challenge you to look at the facts before you jump on the bandwagon. I enjoy having each and every one of you as my friends, and I don't care to see that destroyed. Good night, my friend

I wasn't jumping on any wagon Brad!!
I thought id seen some pictures you posted of a 550 piston and cylinder ground all to crap.....im just a hack job myself but i thought what the heck is he doing!! I've searched and searched and cant find anything or even the pictures i supposedly seen. I guess i made a mistake somewhere along the lines......

Anyways, none of this matters much to me. I beat ya down in public about some pictures i cant even find that might not even be yours. I'll apologise in public for being in the wrong too, Sorry Brad, i guess i had some confusion on a few things and cant find anything to back up what i thought.....so i must be mistaken about the whole deal.

 

[Tzed250]

What percentage of the gains come from a MM? I'm sure you being able to port you're own saw for free, any time you want, is extremely helpful to someone looking to send theirs off. By your logic in this post 346's shouldn't be ported either because they are strong enough stock. So, your advice on the best saw to port is none? Just muffler mod and be done?

I got about 20% from the muffler mod, and another 20% from the port and machine work. A person would need to decide if they want to leave 20% sitting on the table.

 

[DSS]

I wasn't jumping on any wagon Brad!!
I thought id seen some pictures you posted of a 550 piston and cylinder ground all to crap.....im just a hack job myself but i thought what the heck is he doing!! I've searched and searched and cant find anything or even the pictures i supposedly seen. I guess i made a mistake somewhere along the lines......

Anyways, none of this matters much to me. I beat ya down in public about some pictures i cant even find that might not even be yours. I'll apologise in public for being in the wrong too, Sorry Brad, i guess i had some confusion on a few things and cant find anything to back up what i thought.....so i must be mistaken about the whole deal.

Well lookie lookie. Someone may have made a mistake and owned up to it.


Amazing. We could use more guys like that here.











But I'm still calling for the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabulamps. :cool2:

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

You know what I see coming from this thread. A 550xp build off.

The saw has to be able to be used as a work saw with multiple hardwood cuts over and over and pull 3/8 in a test cant. cant so all wood can be as even as possible. All must use the same stock 3/8 full comp full chisel chain off same reel etc. Reason I say 3/8 chain, because I have seen some ported 346 that dont have the balls to even pull 3/8 chain. I think torque should be in a work saw. :msp_thumbup:


Have fun now. Some have to earn a dollar and disappear for awhile.

 

[Blazin]

I got about 20% from the muffler mod, and another 20% from the port and machine work. A person would need to decide if they want to leave 20% sitting on the table.

Or 40%....I've got at least a dozen tankfuls run thru my new 550, and I'm still on the fence about hacking the muffler...it just runs to damn good the way it is :msp_thumbup:

 

[solo]

So the 346/2153 is the best ported 50cc saw?

 

[thomas1]

I got about 20% from the muffler mod, and another 20% from the port and machine work. A person would need to decide if they want to leave 20% sitting on the table.

What's the adage, the last 10% of performance takes 90% of the work?

20% seems like a pretty big chunk to leave out, no? If I was paying $50 for a muffler mod, that takes an hour, I would think $200 for a six hour port job would be a good deal.

Assuming both are done by a competent individual, of course.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Same chain on all three.


[video=youtube;Z897fnSfxUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z897fnSfxUw[/video]

IMO two tanks of fuel is not even close to showing a saws full potential. We all know the 550 will wake up a good amount with 15-20 tanks ran through it. How many tanks had been ran through the 2153 at the time of the comparison Randy?

 

[Andyshine77]

What percentage of the gains come from a MM? I'm sure you being able to port you're own saw for free, any time you want, is extremely helpful to someone looking to send theirs off. By your logic in this post 346's shouldn't be ported either because they are strong enough stock. So, your advice on the best saw to port is none? Just muffler mod and be done?

You're nothing but a spin doctor, it doesn't matter what I say or how I say it. Goodbye.

 

[thomas1]

You're nothing but a spin doctor, it doesn't matter what I saw or how I say it. Goodbye.

Hello, pot.

I'm quoting what you wrote, no spin on my end. I'm sorry that you don't have the confidence in your position to defend it in a discussion.