2101xp/ top all time muscle saws!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's a great pic Randy! You know those guys? That 650 looks brand new. Always glad to see some logging photos, especially when there's old Homelite or McCulloch iron at work.
I have a 43" Homelite bar that probably looked just like that (same stencil) when new. Unfortunately, it spent the last 25-30 years in somebody's basement. Tip is rusted solid, and the whole bar is covered in surface rust (but the stencil is somewhat visible through the rust). I should be able save the bar with a new tip and some elbow grease. Was the OEM bar from that Homelite 750 that I worked on a while ago. The original owner removed that bar in favor of a 48" Cannon (which is once again on the saw).
I have a 43" Homelite bar that probably looked just like that (same stencil) when new. Unfortunately, it spent the last 25-30 years in somebody's basement. Tip is rusted solid, and the whole bar is covered in surface rust (but the stencil is somewhat visible through the rust). I should be able save the bar with a new tip and some elbow grease. Was the OEM bar from that Homelite 750 that I worked on a while ago. The original owner removed that bar in favor of a 48" Cannon (which is once again on the saw).
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I'll say on the great picture too Randy! And nice saw eh Aaron! Great picture and tree Randy!
298/2100 serviceing
Hi guys
Thanks for the service PDF. I red loctited the starter dog pins and pounded them back in.
Just from a trial of the 2100 it pulls over & starts SOOOOO much easier than the 298. I wonder if the 298 was hot rodded? 145psi on the 2100 is probably low.
Still trying to get the 298 & 2100 fitted up with enough good hardware to try them out. I found the previous owner put a .050 chain in the .058 bar. Next the 2100 came without bar plates. OK I found Baileys shows them in stock..however My 298 has an additional inner case protector?between the bar plate and case... yet it does not show in the IPL??? anyone else have one in their saw ??? know the part #?
Add a couple new 7 pin rims with a new chain and we should be ready for wood.:hmm3grin2orange:
Cheers
Hi guys
Thanks for the service PDF. I red loctited the starter dog pins and pounded them back in.
Just from a trial of the 2100 it pulls over & starts SOOOOO much easier than the 298. I wonder if the 298 was hot rodded? 145psi on the 2100 is probably low.
Still trying to get the 298 & 2100 fitted up with enough good hardware to try them out. I found the previous owner put a .050 chain in the .058 bar. Next the 2100 came without bar plates. OK I found Baileys shows them in stock..however My 298 has an additional inner case protector?between the bar plate and case... yet it does not show in the IPL??? anyone else have one in their saw ??? know the part #?
Add a couple new 7 pin rims with a new chain and we should be ready for wood.:hmm3grin2orange:
Cheers
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Good deal Dave! Is the 2100 thick or thin ring? Not sure of the inner protector, is it just a bar plate? If u have any trouble my saw shop, has a hell of a parts supplier. Night all!
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You can't get away with a 7 tooth sprocket in 3/8 on a 2100 . . . They don't really scream. They just pull real hard. 63 ga is the only ga.to run on them and 404 is best. 7 tooth 404 will hold up pretty good. 8 tooth will last. . You get a hundred CC saw running right and you won't believe the power they have. If your going to be doing a lot of cutting with them, you better buy your rims in the.half dozen tube.
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With the 2101 I had I would burn around 15 gal of gas in a 36 hour work week. Consume at least 1 rim and rip a couple few chains in half.
But oh man would it Slam the wood on the ground.
But oh man would it Slam the wood on the ground.
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Hey Randy ; when you were cutting those big redwoods , what did u use for wedges ??
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used K&H on everything.
Norm
both my 298 and 2100 are 1.5mm rings....thick ring. I bought a GOLF and Episan piston and they are also both the wide version.
There is an additional plate between the normal bar plate and the saw chassis. I'll try and get a pix.
TB
I'd believe you without a doubt on your whole statement. I should get a longer bar then the current 24", for the 2100, which I may use for a mill. I have .404/063 on the old homelites and have 7 and 8 pin rims for them.
Yet Oregon has obsoleted PN 13313 404/8. What do members use? or are we all in trouble when stock dries up? Who else makes them.
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/201007.htm
There are lots of 8,9,and even10 pin sprockets out there. They can be found at many suppliers, and all over e-bay. There are knock-offs, but I don't know about quality. Maybe everybody should stock up.???? I can't imagine them drying up completely, there are still many who use, and need them.
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Good to see everyone! I love it Tramp 2100 slamming wood on the ground! * pin what was your average bar size? Randy what does K&H stand for, with wedges?
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My 1st 2100 I got it new with a 42" . That was before I broke in falling full time in Alaska. I wasa rigging man at the time. And got sick of blowing up 45 and 56 Supers bucking big spruce snags for firewood in Sitka to sellfor firewood . That was in 85 .. I was running 52 AJ chisel filed. Eventually I got 32+36" bars and another 2100 . I think that first one came with a 7 tooth but I eventually went to 8 tooth. It was a cutting machine. I had a number of bucks that I had to take a block out so I could cut the heart out. Those 2 saws lasted and lasted. I've run a bunch of other 2100s for different loggin outfits as landing saws. The only problem with them is they vibrated too much. But they sure cut. When I got my 2101 I was running 75 CKX semi skip Dura Pro. Even with the 63 ga . It was snapping chains and blowing sprockets.
extra bar plate
This is a pix of the 3 bar plates along with the case protector. No one else has the small extra one on their saw?
Can't find it in the parts book. This set was originally on my 298. My new to me 2100 has none at all. The regular ones are coming from Baileys
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This is a pix of the 3 bar plates along with the case protector. No one else has the small extra one on their saw?
Can't find it in the parts book. This set was originally on my 298. My new to me 2100 has none at all. The regular ones are coming from Baileys
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srcarr52
We can't stop here, this is bat country.
The lower bar plates are a newer style from 268-288's but they'll fit on a 2100 just fine.
The part # is stamped on them and is the same # as in the first 1100 through the last 2101 IPLs.
501 44 44-01 and 501 44 45-01
Only the small one is in question and does not show in the IPL, or I have not found it yet..........maybe in the 268-288 IPL??
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Shaun, why 3 bar plates? Dynodave not sure if I ever saw three, all on the saw Dave? Tramp love those stories my friend! So my 2101 needs an 8 tooth?? And with 8 does it affect long bar performance?
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Mister Wizard
Your 2101 will do fine with 3/8-8. I wouldn't run .404-8 on it in the hardwoods we cut (would stick with .404-7 or 3/8-8). .404-7 and 3/8-8 rims are about the same diameter (and give roughly the same chain speed).
Bar plates...........that reminds me that I need to order some for the 288 and 2100.
