I'm fustrated....

[Eccentric]

We could have appealed again......but I grew tired of their crap.

There are just too many unanswered questions here........I would love to have the guy explain a few basic things.......like.

Why does the saw appeared to be used?

Could you show me your bill of sale?

That saw certainly looks used. There's saw dust (as in dull chain), the missing clutch cover, some fresh chain rash on the side of the case above the bar pad, and to my eyes the top right AV spring looks tweaked (along with the handlebar)..................like they pinched the bar and reefed the hell out of it. Almost looks like the bar studs ain't square with the case anymore either.

 

[exSW]

Wonder if you could go to your County courthouse and put a mechanics lien against it?

 

[Adirondackstihl]

This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available.

Where'd it go?

 

[Steve NW WI]

HELLO!

I've asked nicely a couple times for those of you not directly involved to stand back from this for a bit while MM and the new guy try to work this out.

Johnny hasn't logged on since 1 something AM, not everyone is as bad as us and lives here 24-7.

I'm not at all trying to sweep this under the rug. I'd just like to see this straightened out without the pitchfork wielding mob taking over.

So here's the deal. For the next 24 hours, or until Randy or Johnny tell us that either something's been worked out, or won't happen, whichever comes first, I don't want to see ANYTHING from anyone not DIRECTLY involved in this. To me, that includes Randy, Johnny, ptjeep, thomas1, and anyone else involved with the replacement 394. If you're not one of them, until then, DON'T add your 2 cents worth.

This serves as the official warning. It'll go straight to infractions from here.

Oh, skip the pie, cake, pizza, quilts, etc. posts as well.

Like I said above, if nothings happened by this time tomorrow, have at it.

Thanks for your support.

 

[o8f150]

HELLO!

I've asked nicely a couple times for those of you not directly involved to stand back from this for a bit while MM and the new guy try to work this out.

Johnny hasn't logged on since 1 something AM, not everyone is as bad as us and lives here 24-7.

I'm not at all trying to sweep this under the rug. I'd just like to see this straightened out without the pitchfork wielding mob taking over.

So here's the deal. For the next 24 hours, or until Randy or Johnny tell us that either something's been worked out, or won't happen, whichever comes first, I don't want to see ANYTHING from anyone not DIRECTLY involved in this. To me, that includes Randy, Johnny, ptjeep, thomas1, and anyone else involved with the replacement 394. If you're not one of them, until then, DON'T add your 2 cents worth.

This serves as the official warning. It'll go straight to infractions from here.

Oh, skip the pie, cake, pizza, quilts, etc. posts as well.

Like I said above, if nothings happened by this time tomorrow, have at it.

Thanks for your support.

i have some fresh corn on the cob,,, sorry no pie,, pizza or cake:msp_biggrin::msp_biggrin::msp_biggrin:

 

[Steve NW WI]

i have some fresh corn on the cob,,, sorry no pie,, pizza or cake:msp_biggrin::msp_biggrin::msp_biggrin:

Have an infraction with your corn on the cob.



Next...

 

[Mastermind]

Color me surprised......

At this time some of my faith in man being capable of doing the right thing has been restored. The seller has made me an offer......he says he will relist the saw and then split the sale price with me.

I told him that I thought that was very fair, and in fact it was much more than I expected.

Here's the deal though......he asked me to give him my word that neither I, nor any of you guys would manipulate the auction in any way.

I told him that I couldn't guarantee that no one from this site would bid on it......but I would ask the guys that are close to me here to stay out of it.

So, I'm asking.

Giving a man my word is not a matter I take lightly, so please do this for me.

 

[Work Saw Collector]

OK will comply anything you say, but wouldn't it bring more with us bidding?

 

[olyman]

Hi! Good of you to show up with your side of everything.

OK...one saw lost in the mail issue will be resolved, now..you have other saws and..this whole post office "lost merchandise" deal leading to auctions is just wrong.

It isn't your doings obviously, but...something is just wrong when well packed merchandise gets "lost". How many tens of thousands of people lose their stuff? The post office accepts the packages, seems like they would be inspected then and accepted or rejected as to suitable for shipping.

I am just not understanding how things get "lost". Post office needs to sort out how to get labels to stick on boxes better, and have a question they ask the shipper, is there another label/tag affixed to the merchandise inside the box, yes/no? If no, they shouldn't accept it.

Maybe boxes should come not totally sealed, then looked at for an internal label or tag, then final sealing and shipping?

I haven't shipped that many saws, but have put a separate sheet inside the boxes with contact info, just as a matter of course.

the usps,,could lose a semi tractor and trailer....

 

[Work Saw Collector]

OK will comply anything you say, but wouldn't it bring more with us bidding?

I don't imply bidding without buying I'm talking buying, I still don't have a MM saw.

 

[olyman]

Yep after we get the USPS and Postal inspectors to read this thread.

they could care less...we pay their wages, and benes,,and they laugh...................

 

[olyman]

do not wait. somebody has property that belongs to somebody else. How it got to where it is needs to be sorted out and fixed. If it turns out to be a huge USPS scam it needs to be brought to light and people need to be thrown in jail and fired. The fact that they insure packages and pay only 2% of the claims screams of a massive internal fraud. There are many thousands of good people working for the post office they need to have their reputations protected. It is time somebody takes out the trash.

ive been burnt,,THREE times by that trash....

 

[ohio andy]

Color me surprised......

At this time some of my faith in man being capable of doing the right thing has been restored. The seller has made me an offer......he says he will relist the saw and then split the sale price with me.

I told him that I thought that was very fair, and in fact it was much more than I expected.

Here's the deal though......he asked me to give him my word that neither I, nor any of you guys would manipulate the auction in any way.

I told him that I couldn't guarantee that no one from this site would bid on it......but I would ask the guys that are close to me here to stay out of it.

So, I'm asking.

Giving a man my word is not a matter I take lightly, so please do this for me.

Maybe you should help write the description if it to increase sale price.

 

[zogger]

I don't do ebay, so I couldn't manipulate anything if I tried. Can't see any manipulation possible other than the price going up.

With that said, your deal, your saw/now his saw.

I was kinda sorta hoping for a larger big picture ending though, getting the post office involved so that "lost" articles wind up back in the correct hands and aren't auctioned off. Your saw and the thousands of other lost articles, plus this apparent abysmal "insurance" scam that is running with the (unverified yet) but reported 2% payback on claims. Reform in other words, and some explanation from the authorities about how this occurred. It just smells, that's all. Something just hasn't added up yet.Nice clean rebuilt modded saw, shows up obviously in less than unused condition, etc. Post office finds it, but won't give it back, or something. Multiple weirdness events.

but..your gig, glad you are satisifed with the results so far, certainly better than no closure after it got lost.

 

[SawTroll]

I don't imply bidding without buying I'm talking buying, I still don't have a MM saw.

Could well be, as AS members presumably knows more than most others about what the saw is.

 

[Mastermind]

OK will comply anything you say, but wouldn't it bring more with us bidding?

I'm sure he would like it to bring as much as possible. I'm not sure what he meant really....

I think he just doesn't want anyone casting a negative light upon the auction.

It would be best if he told you guys himself......and he probably will.

Maybe you should help write the description if it to increase sale price.

I'm not sure about the condition of the saw........I would have to decline. I did tell him it was fine if he wanted to mention that the saw was built my Mastermind Worksaws.

 

[Work Saw Collector]

I'm sure he would like it to bring as much as possible. I'm not sure what he meant really....

I think he just doesn't want anyone casting a negative light upon the auction.

It would be best if he told you guys himself......and he probably will.



I'm not sure about the condition of the saw........I would have to decline. I did tell him it was fine if he wanted to mention that the saw was built my Mastermind Worksaws.

No negative lite on the auction, Arborist Site is a huge saw buying force just in case he didn't know.

 

[Mastermind]

I don't do ebay, so I couldn't manipulate anything if I tried. Can't see any manipulation possible other than the price going up.

With that said, your deal, your saw/now his saw.

I was kinda sorta hoping for a larger big picture ending though, getting the post office involved so that "lost" articles wind up back in the correct hands and aren't auctioned off. Your saw and the thousands of other lost articles, plus this apparent abysmal "insurance" scam that is running with the (unverified yet) but reported 2% payback on claims. Reform in other words, and some explanation from the authorities about how this occurred. It just smells, that's all. Something just hasn't added up yet.Nice clean rebuilt modded saw, shows up obviously in less than unused condition, etc. Post office finds it, but won't give it back, or something. Multiple weirdness events.

but..your gig, glad you are satisifed with the results so far, certainly better than no closure after it got lost.

I would have liked a more "complete" ending to this too. But the USPS is not gonna take notice of the likes of me.

 

[komatsuvarna]

That's good!

I don't doubt for a second that the seller didn't buy the saw. That saw shipped from Randy to Preston wouldn't be anywhere near Atlanta, Heck it wouldn't even be in the south portion of Tennessee for that matter. I'm sure he bought it like he said and planned on making a dollar off it....nothing wrong with that as that's what makes the world go around.

I'm not even gonna get started on the USPS..... They probably never tried one time to find the rightful owner.

I shipped 2 saws today. Because of this thread I didn't go give my money to the USPS either....

 

[Mastermind]

No negative lite on the auction, Arborist Site is a huge saw buying force just in case he didn't know.

He's just viewed the tip of the AS iceberg.... :msp_wink: