!ok there's all of 16" of snow on the level in the woods. having been able to get around in the woods till now with the f-150 4x4 till today. slid into a huge red oak that took out the r. r. quarter panel. when do you all call it "time to quit" with the 4x4 trucks? more snow in the forecast in the coming days, so its time to bring out the old allis d-15 with chains to help move snow an pull some wood to a landing! loading blocks into the bucket with a couple logs on the hitch should make for some faster wood making .... tandem and f-150 for a good daily workout.