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Yes, please do that Steve. Thanks my fellow hard water fisherman.I can make it go there if you'd like.
Yes, please do that Steve. Thanks my fellow hard water fisherman.I can make it go there if you'd like.
Aww Spidey, that was your setup? That poor stove never had a chance.
Bryan to be fair, steel stoves have been around a long time and the better ones do OK. But I do like cast much better! Cast iron takes high heat better & takes the heating/cooling cycles over many years much better. Most cast stoves will kick out more heat quicker also. This winter has Really sold me on this Jotul 118CB!Well, either way, my next stove will be a cast iron unit, not a plate steel. I'm not really impressed with the reality of a plate steel stove. It sounded good on paper, but I don't think the advertising stands up to the test.
Well, either way, my next stove will be a cast iron unit, not a plate steel. I'm not really impressed with the reality of a plate steel stove. It sounded good on paper, but I don't think the advertising stands up to the test.
I have one of each. They both work really well. I liked the idea of a welded steel stove, as I figured it should be very well sealed and last a long time. So far this has turned out to be true - the only place it can leak is the door gasket and glass, which are no big deal to keep up with. I suppose if I overfired it regularly it could warp and be a problem, but this is hardly good for a cast stove either. Cast iron can warp and change shape quite drastically too.Bryan to be fair, steel stoves have been around a long time and the better ones do OK. But I do like cast much better! Cast iron takes high heat better & takes the heating/cooling cycles over many years much better. Most cast stoves will kick out more heat quicker also. This winter has Really sold me on this Jotul 118CB!
VC used to be pretty good, but they have changed so much in the last 20 years. I had a not so good experience with one for about 9 years. I do read good things about Blaze King, but don't know anyone who has one & have never seen one? Jotul is top shelf stuff!I've heard good and bad about VC and PE stoves. I rally haven't heard a bad thing about Jotuls or Blaze Kings... For whatever that's worth.
I have a friend that has a jotul f400 and does not like it. It is very finicky about draft settings and smokes out the door every time unless you reload ONLY when burnt down to coals. Did some research and it seems to be a problem with this particular model.I've heard good and bad about VC and PE stoves. I rally haven't heard a bad thing about Jotuls or Blaze Kings... For whatever that's worth.
I've heard the f400 needs very dry wood and the 'right procedure'. There are also a lot of folks out there that are completely happy with the f400. Our f118 is not so finicky.I have a friend that has a jotul f400 and does not like it. It is very finicky about draft settings and smokes out the door every time unless you reload ONLY when burnt down to coals. Did some research and it seems to be a problem with this particular model.
I'm hoping you can help me out here flotek
See... I'm having a bit of trouble with the math, no doubt because I dropped out'a school and ain't as smart as you.
Anyway...
If the old non-EPA firebox of the same size (that I also "mcgyverised" in the same way) was capable of heating my home...
And the wiz-bang, new-fangled, EPA firebox of the same size was not capable of heating my home, while using at least as much wood, probably more by my measurements...
How exactly does that add-up to more heat burning less wood??
Am I forgetting to carry a "1" somewhere... maybe dividing when I should be multiplying??
Maybe my giant brain isn't pulsating as much as usual??
Help me out man...
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