the all aussie dribble thread!

[MCW]

Dont worry matt ,we all know what you says is all nonsense

I'm certainly not having a crack at Michael as this is the first time that anybody from GB has bothered to respond to some of the comments doing the rounds over the last few years. I emailed GB a few years ago regarding this bar manufacturing thing and the reply I got was extremely vague at best and left me with no confidence in where their bars were getting made. This email was forwarded to a few fellow members at the time. GB's main competitors are online regularly checking sites likes this and reading comments. It would seem that nobody from GB had thought Arboristsite was worth their attention until Gregg started his new business in the states and took offense to my comments.

I also can't edit out this bloody smiley face which has somehow infiltrated my post dammit Must have been Bob...

 

[splitpost]

In other posts you have claimed that the GB factory in Sunshine looks deserted. Well thats becuase you'd be standing out front of the old GB factory which we relocated from almost 3 years ago and if you were a GB dealer you would have received several notifications about this, not to mention the editorial in the industry mags.

Michael Kennedy
Managing Director
GB Forestry Australia P/L

Can you just clear this up, is this your current address?
GB Manufacturing Pty. Ltd. 44-46 Berkshire Road, Sunshine
the reason I ask is that this is listed on your web site and when you google it, it shows a busy shopfront from 2009

 

[splitpost]

Well Michael you can be indeed thankful that this site is limited to those with nothing better to do than bag people cause it suits them anyway I find your comments interesting and as Matt would have to say from the horses mouth

McBob.

I take it that's why your always here

 

[MCW]

"I don't have a shopfront which is Dealer Rule #1. This rule obviously doesn't apply to ALL your dealers however!" Forgive me if I'm wrong but this remark itself seems like a comment by someone with their nose out of joint.

Matt, I don't want to get into a slanging match but today you accuse GB of pulling the wool over someones eyes. I have read several of your posts on this site, clearly you are misinformed about many aspects of GB over the years. The Arbor Pro and Arbor Tech series are good bars and we have not seen the quality issues that you claim in your post. Sure when you sell as many bars as we do, you're bound to get the odd nose blowout or a rail wearing quicker than it should. As you know this could be caused by incorrectly tensioned chain, insufficient lube or any number of other reasons, however we do still sometimes replace these bars as a sign of goodwill. As far as any comment coming from our reps, well GB hasn't had a chainsaw rep for over 4 years. We do all our marketing through our regular dealer updates direct to registered dealers. We do have reps in the GB harvester division and if you like I'll get the S.A. rep to drop in on you when he's in the area.

I'm not sure if it was being repeated or not but the comment about GB being deserted, I read directly from one of your posts.

Anyway, I only came on here to state the facts and clear up a few things. It's good to see people so passionate about the industry but to respond to all the rumours and innuendo regarding GB would take up all my time so I'll chose to ignore it, which is probably what I should have done in this case also.

Regards,
Michael.

Thanks again for your response Michael. Firstly the shopfront issue with being a dealer was actually brought up at GB's end and was the excuse given to me why I couldn't get an account. When I brought up other non shopfront dealers there were a silence at the other end. Obviously I was being fed porky pies
As far as GB products go I have a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" type arrangement with another dealer so I can access GB gear at dealer cost anytime I want which I have. I have a number of current GB bars in stock which may surprise you.
On another note I have no issues with GB providing a bit more evidence and information on what GB do our don't make in Australia. I've been proven wrong before so knock yourself out. I actually hope you can prove us all wrong to be honest.
Oh and "rep" may not have been the proper term but it was somebody from GB who was talking to one of your account holders.

 

[WidowMaker_1]

Ill keep it short and direct ! So are all new GB Bars Made in Australia ?

 

[ausneil 1]

I also can't edit out this bloody smiley face which has somehow infiltrated my post dammit Must have been Bob...

Glad you have responded to the above Matt, I will stay out of it and not add anything and I hope all you other guys do the same before this turns into something nasty.

Your comment regarding bob,,,,,
Poor bob is under a lot of stress these days, so many things on his plate, things like painting, finding the right colour paint, cleaning up afterwards, paint brushes, which one to use for such delicate a job. Parts, god where does that bit go and such, what can I do to block that hole up. Then there's the photo shoots, getting the sun in the right spot, making sure the dust does not settle on the latest masterpiece, then there's the key board, which button does what, oh and all the forums, must keep up with the gossip. It must be hectic being retired.

 

[Michael Kennedy]

Ill keep it short and direct ! So are all new GB Bars Made in Australia ?

No, not all new GB bars are made in Australia. This has never been claimed.

 

[VinceGU05]

Can you just clear this up, is this your current address?
GB Manufacturing Pty. Ltd. 44-46 Berkshire Road, Sunshine
the reason I ask is that this is listed on your web site and when you google it, it shows a busy shopfront from 2009

try this
http://www.gbforestry.com.au/contact-us
26 East Derrimut Crescent
Derrimut
VIC 3030 Australia
+61 3 8353 6655

 

[WidowMaker_1]

No, not all new GB bars are made in Australia. This has never been claimed.

thanks for a direct short answer mate .cheers

 

[Michael Kennedy]

Thanks again for your response Michael. Firstly the shopfront issue with being a dealer was actually brought up at GB's end and was the excuse given to me why I couldn't get an account. When I brought up other non shopfront dealers there were a silence at the other end. Obviously I was being fed porky pies
As far as GB products go I have a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" type arrangement with another dealer so I can access GB gear at dealer cost anytime I want which I have. I have a number of current GB bars in stock which may surprise you.
On another note I have no issues with GB providing a bit more evidence and information on what GB do our don't make in Australia. I've been proven wrong before so knock yourself out. I actually hope you can prove us all wrong to be honest.
Oh and "rep" may not have been the proper term but it was somebody from GB who was talking to one of your account holders.

Matt, its great that you have found a way to access GB at dealer prices. And it's great that you have a number of GB bars in stock. All the better for me.
In terms of providing a bit more evidence, you already have an invitation to come and see exactly what we do here in Melbourne.

 

[Michael Kennedy]

Can you just clear this up, is this your current address?
GB Manufacturing Pty. Ltd. 44-46 Berkshire Road, Sunshine
the reason I ask is that this is listed on your web site and when you google it, it shows a busy shopfront from 2009

No, thats not the current address, its not even the current website. That company went into liquidation years ago as a reulst of the nasty split between the previous directors. My website is www.gbforestry.com.au where you will find the current address and contact details.

 

[Stihlman441]

So which GB bars are MADE in AUSTRALIA (not the cover on the bars) simple questsoin ?.

I have run the Ti bars and some Pro tops for years and have found them to be an excerlant bar that last and last.
Have had a couple problems with the noses but.

This one only had a few hrs on it

 

[Michael Kennedy]

So which GB bars are MADE in AUSTRALIA (not the cover on the bars) simple questsoin ?.

I have run the Ti bars and some Pro tops for years and have found them to be an excerlant bar that last and last.
Have had a couple problems with the noses but.

This one only had a few hrs on it

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It's a funny question becuase the cover (sleeve) on the Ti and ProTops is the only part of it that was not made in Australia.
The sleeves have always been printed in China. Although the bearings are from Switzerland. I hope you got that nose replaced under warranty.

 

[ozflea]

Maybe it's time to bite the bullet Matt and get yourself a shop front I had the same problem 30 years ago when I was trading from home not only with GB but
with other companies as well then people including me wont be able to accuse you of being a backyarder

 

[splitpost]

No, thats not the current address, its not even the current website. That company went into liquidation years ago as a reulst of the nasty split between the previous directors. My website is www.gbforestry.com.au where you will find the current address and contact details.

Thanks for clearing that up ,it suxx that it doesn't direct business to the newer site

 

[splitpost]

Maybe it's time to bite the bullet Matt and get yourself a shop front I had the same problem 30 years ago when I was trading from home not only with GB but
with other companies as well then people including me wont be able to accuse you of being a backyarder

Yeah but 30years ago you where either a back yarder or you had a shop ,now you also have companies that purly trade online from where ever the helll they want to ,i dont see a problem with online sales,i gotta admit sometimes it nice to be able to walk into a shop and kick the tyres but online trading is here and i dont think its going away anytime soon

 

[WidowMaker_1]

lots of smaller business wouldn't be viable if they had to pay rent for some shop, many small businesses close down for they cant make a profit after paying the rent & electricity for a shop..... but many small businesses running out of shipping containers on farms / backyards are making a profit cause there not paying hundreds if not a thousand in rent /electricity /body corporates etc etc per week . Running a small Business from home is the way of the future if you want to stay viable by not having to make a heap of sales just to pay for a shopfront

 

[Stihlman441]

It's a funny question becuase the cover (sleeve) on the Ti and ProTops is the only part of it that was not made in Australia.
The sleeves have always been printed in China. Although the bearings are from Switzerland. I hope you got that nose replaced under warranty.

On the sticker on the sleeve i think it has PRODUCT OF AUSTRALIA and the Ti bars has AUSTRALIA on it.
I didnt do the warranty thing on the nose cant remember were i got it from,could of been coonasawchain i got afew spare ones once.

If i recall when the grahics on the Ti bars changed the oil hole shape changed as well.

 

[windthrown]

It's a funny question becuase the cover (sleeve) on the Ti and ProTops is the only part of it that was not made in Australia.
The sleeves have always been printed in China. Although the bearings are from Switzerland. I hope you got that nose replaced under warranty.

Thanks for clearing up this issue that has been around for a looooooong time (on this site and the now extinct Tree World site). I am also happy that Gregg in Willits, CA is carrying GB bars at Left Coast Logging. Sources for those bars are not common here in the states. I bought some GB ProTop bars about 5 years ago (though Wojo on this site) and I love them. They have less of an oval to them than Stihl bars and they hold up well for me. I like the nose sprocket grease holes too. I actually bent a 25 inch GB ProTop bar in a tree at about a 15 degree angle, and I bent it back into shape in a vice. You cannot tell where it was bent at all. I have always recommended them, and people often reply about the doubt about their being made in Oz. Now we know that the ProTop and Ti bars still are made on Oz. End of story. I am happy, as I want more of those bars now.

Swiss bearings... oooh la la!

 

[deye223]

So which GB bars are MADE in AUSTRALIA (not the cover on the bars) simple questsoin ?.

I have run the Ti bars and some Pro tops for years and have found them to be an excerlant bar that last and last.
Have had a couple problems with the noses but.

This one only had a few hrs on it

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hey andrew whats with the STIHL chain lol i thought you had rolls of carlton ....