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so, my small GB bar, which I thought would be good, is pretty **** really.
I think I understand now: Pro tops, or Ti or do not buy GB at all.

I just wish someone would come up with solid, .050, 3/8LP sprocket nose bars in lengths above 18". Yeah, yeah, overpowering of LP chain and the ramifications, blah, blah. Picco is the shizzle but I can't find good small bars at all. Not every freaking small saw owner is harry homeowner. Happy to pay for good bars that last. Apart from the POS GB small bar I have, all my others are Tsumura.
 
KiwiBro said:
so, my small GB bar, which I thought would be good, is pretty **** really.
I think I understand now: Pro tops, or Ti or do not buy GB at all.

I just wish someone would come up with solid, .050, 3/8LP sprocket nose bars in lengths above 18". Yeah, yeah, overpowering of LP chain and the ramifications, blah, blah. Picco is the shizzle but I can't find good small bars at all. Not every freaking small saw owner is harry homeowner. Happy to pay for good bars that last. Apart from the POS GB small bar I have, all my others are Tsumura.
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460cixy said:
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Cheers. I even tried Tsumura laminated small picco bars and while better still not as good as their solid bars and didn't last much longer than the stihl laminated. Have only used this small GB bar a Summer and I know it's not gonna last. What's the point of Stihl and co packing progressively more torque (and decent oil outputs) into little saws if it's wasted running larger chain? I don't see the point in cutting any bigger kerf than needed and I want the power and my efforts going to separating one bit of wood from another in the most efficient manner possible. LP does that and I don't consider it can't handle the sort of power these small saws are developing.

There's a real PITA lack of overlap between my 7900 and 241 that is filled with the 20" bar on either the 7900 or my 310. I could leave the 310 out of it altogether and use the 241 if only I could find a decent 18 or 20" picco bar. Heck, if I could, I'd probably try picco on bigger bars and get the safety police wet with anticipation.
 
KiwiBro said:
so, my small GB bar, which I thought would be good, is pretty **** really.
I think I understand now: Pro tops, or Ti or do not buy GB at all.

I just wish someone would come up with solid, .050, 3/8LP sprocket nose bars in lengths above 18". Yeah, yeah, overpowering of LP chain and the ramifications, blah, blah. Picco is the shizzle but I can't find good small bars at all. Not every freaking small saw owner is harry homeowner. Happy to pay for good bars that last. Apart from the POS GB small bar I have, all my others are Tsumura.
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Hi KiwiBro, I'd be interested to know what exactly is the small GB bar that you have? Cheers.
 
Well after reading countless pages on forum's thank goodness we donn't pay for ink and yes to read what Michael has wrote is great and straight from the horses mouth forum are like myths they get bigger and badder as the years progress and turn Mini Mac 30's into gaint slayers I think the pro market as a promotion tool is great but at the end of the day wont feed you for long the consumer / homeowner market is were the money is with high turn over of product
 
KiwiBro said:
so, my small GB bar, which I thought would be good, is pretty **** really.
I think I understand now: Pro tops, or Ti or do not buy GB at all.

I just wish someone would come up with solid, .050, 3/8LP sprocket nose bars in lengths above 18". Yeah, yeah, overpowering of LP chain and the ramifications, blah, blah. Picco is the shizzle but I can't find good small bars at all. Not every freaking small saw owner is harry homeowner. Happy to pay for good bars that last. Apart from the POS GB small bar I have, all my others are Tsumura.
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Hi KiwiBro, I'd be interested to know what exactly is the small GB bar that you have? Cheers.
ozflea said:
Well after reading countless pages on forum's thank goodness we donn't pay for ink and yes to read what Michael has wrote is great and straight from the horses mouth forum are like myths they get bigger and badder as the years progress and turn Mini Mac 30's into gaint slayers I think the pro market as a promotion tool is great but at the end of the day wont feed you for long the consumer / homeowner market is were the money is with high turn over of product
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This in part is the reason why no one will make an .050 3/8LP solid bar over 18" just to keep KiwiBro happy. Sure anyone would be happy to pay for a good bar that lasts, but if the demand isn't there, it's unrealistic to expect this type of bar in anything but a consumer range and a semi-pro range for pole pruners and the like.
 
Well that's true to a point bob depends on where you are located I guess. When the old man had his shop most sales were pro users that went for saws bars sprockets rolls of chain ect next biggest customers were farmers saws mostly and a few chain loops to this type of customer and a very small part was home owner stuff but this was really only down to our location. Where a shop here in Canberra for example is all about the home owner
 
460cixy said:
Well that's true to a point bob depends on where you are located I guess. When the old man had his shop most sales were pro users that went for saws bars sprockets rolls of chain ect next biggest customers were farmers saws mostly and a few chain loops to this type of customer and a very small part was home owner stuff but this was really only down to our location. Where a shop here in Canberra for example is all about the home owner
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Well my time offering saws was at the end of the pro time saws I too refused to work on nickel and dime saws as my workshop specialised in the pro market along with a fair bit of work from the farm sector.

Little did I realize at the time big saws were a dying breed and since I had mouths to feed I had to move on I then got involved in Ride-on mowers selling Greenfield and to become NSW biggest dealer in them averaging 6 to 8 machines a week the big buck spenders came from the mine workers earning mega bucks and the vineyards, my range in sales reached from Tamworth to Nelsons Bay that highway was a gold mine, pity though like all good things it too busted like a balloon ................... anyone in business soon realizes the backyarder's are only there for the easy picken's and wont make the commitment that a store owner or a major dealer has to make another thing that really peed me off was the pro cutters wanting everything for nothing they soon forget i had mouths to feed as well as they did as they loved trying to go direct to the importers to try and cut us out tight asses they were and still are.
 
Sure, if not enough demand, no point making it. Just callk me a bleeding edge early adopter if it helps but I'll be farked if I can figure out why anyone would want to do with an .063 3/8 chain what an .050 3/8LP will do just the same but with far greater efficiency...to a point.
 
ozflea said:
Well my time offering saws was at the end of the pro time saws I too refused to work on nickel and dime saws as my workshop specialised in the pro market along with a fair bit of work from the farm sector.

Little did I realize at the time big saws were a dying breed and since I had mouths to feed I had to move on I then got involved in Ride-on mowers selling Greenfield and to become NSW biggest dealer in them averaging 6 to 8 machines a week the big buck spenders came from the mine workers earning mega bucks and the vineyards, my range in sales reached from Tamworth to Nelsons Bay that highway was a gold mine, pity though like all good things it too busted like a balloon ................... anyone in business soon realizes the backyarder's are only there for the easy picken's and wont make the commitment that a store owner or a major dealer has to make another thing that really peed me off was the pro cutters wanting everything for nothing they soon forget i had mouths to feed as well as they did as they loved trying to go direct to the importers to try and cut us out tight asses they were and still are.
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I recon we sold about a million greenfields too but we also sold iseki and deutz tractors in ok numbers till the arse fell right out of it and we would of sold maybe four or five a year then lucky to sell one a year but saws is where the money was and having both stihl and husky we had the market sewn up tight there was another shop in town and he just did domestic stuff and with out access to stihl and husky products I just don't know how he ever survived
 
460cixy said:
I recon we sold about a million greenfields too but we also sold iseki and deutz tractors in ok numbers till the arse fell right out of it and we would of sold maybe four or five a year then lucky to sell one a year but saws is where the money was and having both stihl and husky we had the market sewn up tight there was another shop in town and he just did domestic stuff and with out access to stihl and husky products I just don't know how he ever survived
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Still have and use a late 80s Greenfield,great old thing,and it has cut plenty of stuff it wasnt really designed to do.
 
Aussie Dave said:
Still have and use a late 80s Greenfield,great old thing,and it has cut plenty of stuff it wasnt really designed to do.
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we have a old Greenfield too, my old man bought in the late 80's i believe, it was intended for my late grandfathers sheep station's house paddock up at Windeyer NSW, we got it back when he died and used it on our own farm for years, before we took it up to my local RFS shed that's situated on farm land in the valley behind our farm ,motor and driveline are perfect and still cuts great, only thing we ever found wrong with them is the front wheels where to small and get caught up in holes and lock up full lock, but give the tyre a good kick and she'd be good to go
 

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