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And I'm telling you to go to this link's second to last instruction, that explicitly states the Shur-Loc's suitability for hoisting personnel on the bloody hook. The absolutely undoubtably rugged enough hook to bounce 200 lbs off the bloody hook's safety latch alone.

http://www.thecrosbygroup.com/portals/0/docs/newproducts/s3326.pdf

Are yu startin tu get the picture mate?

Hung up rigging in canopies, upside down crane balls bending n breaking flimsy gate latches?

Hello, anyone home?

jomoco
Looks chintzy, don't want it on my crane.

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I finally was able to see it, I think the one pictured is a small one, you can get a bigger one. One thing is for sure: Once the thing is loaded it is not coming open until its unloaded.
 
And I'm telling you to go to this link's second to last instruction, that explicitly states the Shur-Loc's suitability for hoisting personnel on the bloody hook. The absolutely undoubtably rugged enough hook to bounce 200 lbs off the bloody hook's safety latch alone.

http://www.thecrosbygroup.com/portals/0/docs/newproducts/s3326.pdf

Are yu startin tu get the picture mate?

Hung up rigging in canopies, upside down crane balls bending n breaking flimsy gate latches?

Hello, anyone home?

jomoco
you not getting the picture mate. z133 does not care what type of hook you use on your crane. they do not permit hanging personnel by a hook of any form other than a secondary tie in point. they don't care if crosby says its rated for personnel lifting. its not in their specs. were in their sandbox and you play by their rules. MATE!
 
I know the guys who sat on that committee. Talked to both Steve and his son Mark, about this specific issue of gate latch strength being of paramount concern to this industry specifically.

Just because your bloody crane has non rotating wire rope doesn't mean that others don't by any stretch of the imagination.

They both have the same or better hands on experience performing crane assisted removals that I do. Know exactly what I mean when snugging up the load causes the crane ball to spin like a weed eater, that being tied in above that spinning ball, subjects your body line to unnecessary abrasive wear n tear.

That Shur-loc positive locking hook is perfect as long as you use one rated locking clevis for your rigging, and a second locking clevis, or solid oval for climber tie in exclusively. That way you can snug that choker up like a pro, double check that it's solid secure and not going to slip, then bail down tie in and pull your bodyline from the crane hook's climber tie in clevis/oval. It ensures your body line can't be damaged by rigging hardware, while letting you take full advantage of the swiveling hook to ensure no tangling or undue wear can happen.

The Shur-Loc hook is the only hook perfect for the tree biz simply by virtue of that gate latch itself being rated strong enough to support the whole crane ball assemblies weight when it inevitably gets upended punching through a canopy, over a climber.

None of your puny spring latches are suitable for use in this industry, and yu know it.

jomoco
 
Mine either. I've put 28000 pounds of pressure on the hook and my climber still was able to rappel to the ground. Jomoco would have you believe he should have been sliced in two from that.

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jomoco- next time you change out your wire rope get some rotation resistant 19x19 class and your spinning will end. almost an industry standard for 15-20 years now, standard equipment on all lift cranes used for hookwork from all brands foreign and domestic.
 
I love the way not one of yuz has addressed the flimsy spring latch issue if your ball gets upended.

Oh that never could happen with you experts right?

You guys don't ever get out of line of sight with your crane ball, or use radios or relay signals huh?

Thick canopy? What's that?

You guys are dangerous, and proud of it, huh?

jomoco
 
I love the way not one of yuz has addressed the flimsy spring latch issue if your ball gets upended.

Oh that never could happen with you experts right?

You guys don't ever get out of line of sight with your crane ball, or use radios or relay signals huh?

Thick canopy? What's that?

You guys are dangerous, and proud of it, huh?

jomoco
if you have a load on the hook, and you are hoisting how is the ball going to get upended? if you have the climber attached above the ball the way z133 requires, you don't go crashing through the branches with a climber. if you can't see the climber, and there is no communication you stop. none of your discussion has anything to do with latch styles. go watch your ball spin. your responses are getting funny.
 
This is the OSHA reg for crane hooks used to lift personnel.

https://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/cranplat.html

And since none none of your flimsy gate latches are rugged enough to ensure they can't open if your crane all gets upended in this industry, the tree industry?

You guys are essentially in violation of an OSHA reg cuz your latches can fail.

Say it ain't so joe...

jomoco
 
This is the OSHA reg for crane hooks used to lift personnel.

https://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/cranplat.html

And since none none of your flimsy gate latches are rugged enough to ensure they can't open if your crane all gets upended in this industry, the tree industry?

You guys are essentially in violation of an OSHA reg cuz your latches can fail.

Say it ain't so joe...

jomoco
you still don't get it we are not hoisting personnel by the hook. and we are not under OSHA regulations for personnel platforms which we are not using.
 
I have never seen one of my flimsy sprimg gate latches break. We lock it closed. If I can't see the ball or block I stop moving until someone who is in direct communication line with me tells me its good to go. Just because the airheads you rent time from are in such a rush to get away from you that they will upend the ball to get it to the ground doesn't mean we need that useless contraption on every crane.

Climber goes above the ball. Once the chokers are in place on the hook, they don't come off until I say so.

I have done conservatively 4000 crane picks this year, and probably a lot more, without breaking a latch.
 
So you choose to be informed of the danger a weak latch poses for this specific industry, and take the risk anyway?

This being the measure of your concern for your climbers below when that rigging breaks loose when your hook assembly gets upended bustin through a canopy?

You've been lucky thus far, why push that luck?

jomoco
 
So you choose to be informed of the danger a weak latch poses for this specific industry, and take the risk anyway?

This being the measure of your concern for your climbers below when that rigging breaks loose when your hook assembly gets upended bustin through a canopy?

You've been lucky thus far, why push that luck?

jomoco
repeat over and over "the climber is not on the hook" "the ball will not upend or slings come off the hook when hoisting" if the ball upends because the dumbass operator is not paying attention you have other probs with your operation. if the canopy is that dense why would you leave your rigging on the hook to cause even more possibility of catching on something. common sense works, try it.
 
So you choose to be informed of the danger a weak latch poses for this specific industry, and take the risk anyway?

This being the measure of your concern for your climbers below when that rigging breaks loose when your hook assembly gets upended bustin through a canopy?

You've been lucky thus far, why push that luck?

jomoco

Because the scenario you suggest exists only in your own well intentioned but seriously misinformed mind.


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and one other thing jomoco, if you look in crosbys specs you will see that the latchlock hook is not designed to swivel under load, as it has no bearing. so that pretty much blows your wildly spinning cable theory out of the water. the bail design allows for free load positioning but pretty much locks up under load. we have these hooks on our debris skip pans which see hard abuse. your not breaking any new ground here. thats the type of hoist duty they were designed for to take the twist out of load chains before the load is imparted.
 
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