If you were to buy a new saw 60 cc and under

[sunfish]

I have gout in my feet......

Sorry to hear that my friend. More fruits n vegetables & less beef...

Gettin old ain't fer sissy's!!!

 

[Mastermind]

No it isn't.

My feet hurt in the big toe joints so bad that I can hardly walk some days. The lemon juice helps that too.

 

[Freakingstang]

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The comment about money and brains was uncalled for! You are pretty arrogant yourself! I was only stating my opinion. Who made you the expert???

I'm not arrogant or an expert bud.. hey, the truth hurts sometimes. If the shoe fits... lace it up. I'm not mad or bitter, but you've made it clear you don't know what you want or think and bounce around all over. See examples below. I've made two posts in this thread, one talking about a 550xp, here's some of yours and how you come across, just in the last couple pages of the thread, you are all over the place, and how many times do you have to say your opinion? imagine if I went back 5 or 6 pages... If this makes me arrogant, oh well, life goes on. seriously, read each one of these.. and I'm arrogant? LMFAO.

Ported 362c

Go on and get it over with and do urself a favor and get a ported 441c. U will get a 261 and cut with it and say I wonder what that 441c would cut like?? Lol? Unless u r porting the 261 get the 362c or the 441c

Now thats a great idea!! Or go 241c, 362c, and 661c!!

If they have a 241 already which they do, I see no need for a saw so close to the 241? 362c or 441c

He already has a huge cc saw for big wood and a 241 for limbing. What could be better than 40cc, 70cc, and 100cc?

Mike Id lie if I told u what all that meant?? Lol? He says he has big saws and doesnt need a big saw. He should reconsider his thinking and saw plan here. Makes 0 sense to have a 241,261, and whatever huge saws he has? If I was picking a one saw plan and under 60cc it would be 362c or a 562xp but if weight wasnt an issue Id no doubt pick ported 441c or ported 372xp?

If he gets that 261 and comes into 25" wood he will be saying dang I shoulda got that 441c!!

I guess its just personal preference and depends on what u cut and how. For me Ive had every size Stihl except the 660/661. I got rid of the 026,261, 441 and went with a 241c, ported 362c, husky 262xp and a ported 461 and couldnt be happier for cutting firewood. If I had to choose 2 saws it would be a 241 and a ported 441c. If picking just 1 saw a ported 441c

I disagree with the choice all together. If I had to choose Retire all the old saws before u cant feel yours hands anymore!! Lol!! Use one of ur smaller saws for limbing and buy a 441c and send it to Randy and buy a 20" bar for it and a larger bar according to wood

BUY THEM ALL!!!!! CAD!!!

Lol!! Im tryin to save u from doing what ive done since last october!! Bought every pro saw Stihl has made except a 660!!! Lol! Do urself a favor and get the 261c and 70cc 441c and send them both to Randy and u r set. Or *****lol!!! Get a 550xp and 372xp and send them to Randy and when u flick the saws around they will handle all good and stuff!!

Lol! Be careful if u get a husky!! The way Niko says they handle u can crank it and go eat lunch and it will cut for you!!! All messin around beside, the 261 wont handle as well as the 550 but theres absolutely nothing wrong with the handling of a 261 at all. Feels more durable and solid than a 550

You have got to be kidding!! Niko will be along shortly to tear u up!!! Lmbo!! 261 feels very solid! I wouldnt mind having a 550 ,545,555,562

If he would buy thoso 2 saws and send them to Randy all that would be left to do would be concentrate on b/c setups for each. He would be a happy smilin camper

See what I mean? talk about going off on a tangent? if he buys a 550xp he doesn't "need" to send it to randy or anyone else. muffler mod and be good to go. They run that good out of the box. You made your opinion, very unclear, many, MANY times, just in the last couple pages of this thread.

KG441c was admitting his mistake, more so than bragging about having xyz saw. That is the same mistake I would end up making without the help from AS.

You are correct about the old iron, It is bought and paid for, but I have enough in my 3 saw plan pictured to buy a ported 261, and 441. Granted it was 20$ here 40$ there. It all adds up.
My main issue with them is all the fiddling I do while cutting always wondering when seals will go, is it time for a carb kit, where did this screw come from etc.

From the sounds of it a ported 50cc can run 18" buried. That is what I am looking for right now.

The problem I have with a mid 60cc saw is they tend to be better suited for the big end of the tree. and fall short when the wood does get large. In my mind you know when to quit with a 50cc then jump to a 70-80cc I have never dropped a tree, everything I cut is a blowover or knocked down. So a small saw to chop the limbs up to 12-14" then jump right to the big saw to buck the trunk.

Thank you, for your opinion
Joe

Sorry, I really didn't mean to be a **** in your thread. Just couldn't believe the last couple pages of reading.. yes, you are right about the 60 something cc saws, they fall short in the big end of the tree, and are underpowered for felling larger trees, imo, but it all depends on what you have to cut. I get into a lot of 20-36" hardwoods and a ms361-2- isn't going to cut it. sure it will psychically do it. all BS aside, you need to ask yourself what you really need to cut the wood that most generally available to you. It you you are like me, its whatever is available, theres where the mulit saws come into effect, but the reality is most people get away with one saw. you were asking a question about one saw, and you get people telling you that you need 6K in saws to cut the stuff you've been doing.

I've always ran ported saws since finding the web, only because I can afford to do my own. i wouldn't/couldn't pay to have mine done by someone else. The 550 is the only saw I've owned that doesn't need porting, just a simple muffler mod and it still rips going on 2 1/2 years later. I'm not saying it wouldn't run very good ported, but to me 750-900 bucks into a 50cc saw is retarded. side by the side the 261 (non M) and the 550xp, the 550 feels like its ported... that doesn't mean the 261 is a bad saw at all, I just prefer my little screaming husky. I totally get the local dealer support issues. I wasn't bashing on dolmar, I loved them, but no local support and most dolmar dealers around the country are like that. if that is you main or only saw and you have to order something from 3-7 days away isn't any good for me. There are some very good ones here, but you can't always wait, So stick with whats local.

 

[hseII]

Dude I had a stone on each side wow.

Dad had 1 in each side before.

He's been blasted, basketed, sliced on, every which way there is to remove the rocks, he's had it done to him multiple times: over 20 to be exact.

I don't know exactly what I'm doing different, but so far, I've not had one.

He is a Rock factory.


His doc gave him a list of everything that causes his kidney stones, and hell, it was a list long as my arm of everything normal people eat: from milk to meat.

 

[Red97]

Sorry, I really didn't mean to be a **** in your thread. Just couldn't believe the last couple pages of reading.. yes, you are right about the 60 something cc saws, they fall short in the big end of the tree, and are underpowered for felling larger trees, imo, but it all depends on what you have to cut. I get into a lot of 20-36" hardwoods and a ms361-2- isn't going to cut it. sure it will psychically do it. all BS aside, you need to ask yourself what you really need to cut the wood that most generally available to you. It you you are like me, its whatever is available, theres where the mulit saws come into effect, but the reality is most people get away with one saw. you were asking a question about one saw, and you get people telling you that you need 6K in saws to cut the stuff you've been doing.

I've always ran ported saws since finding the web, only because I can afford to do my own. i wouldn't/couldn't pay to have mine done by someone else. The 550 is the only saw I've owned that doesn't need porting, just a simple muffler mod and it still rips going on 2 1/2 years later. I'm not saying it wouldn't run very good ported, but to me 750-900 bucks into a 50cc saw is retarded. side by the side the 261 (non M) and the 550xp, the 550 feels like its ported... that doesn't mean the 261 is a bad saw at all, I just prefer my little screaming husky. I totally get the local dealer support issues. I wasn't bashing on dolmar, I loved them, but no local support and most dolmar dealers around the country are like that. if that is you main or only saw and you have to order something from 3-7 days away isn't any good for me. There are some very good ones here, but you can't always wait, So stick with whats local.

I cut field trees, Big giant crowns and tons of limbs. 2-6 and 6-14" once I get to the trunk I switch to a big saw. I am never in a hurry to get the wood cut. Have plenty of time to come back and get it. never more than a couple miles away from home/backup saws.

I believe the best saw for me is a light saw that can run the bar 16-18" buried when it needs to.

I agree with the cost thing, But I have not had the time to learn it yet, Yes it is a lot of money for a 50 cc saw. I am hoping it will be a one and done type of thing.

Then I can experiment on older cheaper saws to meet the benchmark that is set with the new saw ported by someone that know what they are doing.

Again I do appreciate the advise you have given, along with all of the others who have added constructive advice.

Thank you
Joe

 

[Chris-PA]

Gout.......

The ailment of kings.

Related to too much red meat, and too much ale.

Yeah, me too - took me a long time to figure it out as I get it in my fingers. Can't enjoy a beer like I used to, but I haven't cut it out altogether. Probably just a punishment for past transgressions.

 

[maulhead]

Im ok its just Ive never downed or criticized anyone since Ive been on AS! Who in the hell made him Big Poppa???

Keith, I like you and all & enjoying talking with you via pm's, etc. But I dont agree with your above statement. I am not attacking you so please dont take it that way. And I am NOT calling you out on this, I just dont agree with that statement.

Whatever u do use a Tsumura bar as all other bars will cause a saw to overheat and grenade!!!!!!lol!

Tell me how your not criticizing or downing Redbull in that post, or in this thread in post #14?

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/sugihara-24.268754/

I am not taking sides with Redbull here, I've talked to him via pm a lot also, I am sure he could give a flying F''''k what you think of his bar videos. But I am sure Redbull spent a couple thousand dollars on bars and chains, and COUNTLESS hours testing them all, and making his videos. And after all his time and effort,,, all you do is make light of his videos, and poke stabs at him. Tell me how that is not criticizing anyone or downing them?

Show me one SINGLE post were Redbull came out and said your saw will overheat & blow up if you run a Stihl bar? I have read all of his posts and have NOT read that he wrote that anywhere, or even IMPLIED it at all!! But somehow you've put that out there that Redbull did, in a few of your posts, in different threads..

I for one thought his videos were great. The Tsumura bars run cooler and cut faster then the Stihl bars. Better quality steel, better tips, etc, the proof is in the stats, that is just a fact!. But Redbull NEVER said a Stihl bar would make your saw grenade, that I have read anywhere. If he did please show me that post, so I can read it.

I never would NOT have given a moments thought to buying and running a Tsumura until I watched his videos. I then thought wow there is really something different about those high dollar Tsumura bars, vs a stock Stihl bar.

Thousands of guys have put thousands of hours on Stihl saws with Stihl bars, and I am sure they have never grenaded because of it.! A Tsumura does run cooler and cut faster, might make your saw last longer also, if everything else is even.

Just calling like I see it,
Matt

 

[KG441c]

Keith, I like you and all & enjoying talking with you via pm's, etc. But I dont agree with your above statement. I am not attacking you so please dont take it that way. And I am NOT calling you out on this, I just dont agree with that statement.



Tell me how your not criticizing or downing Redbull in that post, or in this thread in post #14?

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/sugihara-24.268754/

I am not taking sides with Redbull here, I've talked to him via pm a lot also, I am sure he could give a flying F''''k what you think of his bar videos. But I am sure Redbull spent a couple thousand dollars on bars and chains, and COUNTLESS hours testing them all, and making his videos. And after all his time and effort,,, all you do is make light of his videos, and poke stabs at him. Tell me how that is not criticizing anyone or downing them?

Show me one SINGLE post were Redbull came out and said your saw will overheat & blow up if you run a Stihl bar? I have read all of his posts and have NOT read that he wrote that anywhere, or even IMPLIED it at all!! But somehow you've put that out there that Redbull did, in a few of your posts, in different threads..

I for one thought his videos were great. The Tsumura bars run cooler and cut faster then the Stihl bars. Better quality steel, better tips, etc, the proof is in the stats, that is just a fact!. But Redbull NEVER said a Stihl bar would make your saw grenade, that I have read anywhere. If he did please show me that post, so I can read it.

I never would NOT have given a moments thought to buying and running a Tsumura until I watched his videos. I then thought wow there is really something different about those high dollar Tsumura bars, vs a stock Stihl bar.

Thousands of guys have put thousands of hours on Stihl saws with Stihl bars, and I am sure they have never grenaded because of it.! A Tsumura does run cooler and cut faster, might make your saw last longer also, if everything else is even.

Just calling like I see it,
Matt

The blowing the saw up was in humor as I know it wont. Redbull had good test and good points in his thread no doubt

 

[maulhead]

The blowing the saw up was in humor as I know it wont. Redbull had good test and good points in his thread no doubt

Understood! I am just saying some might read those posts and not see the humor and take it the wrong way. I know you were just poking fun, but others might not take it that way.

It is just a chainsaw right,,, go cut wood,,,

buy them (just make sure you ONLY buy orange & white ones) ALL and find out which ones you like and dont like, then sell the rest.

 

[Mastermind]

I wonder if everyone is as damn sick as I am today?

I feel like I've been shot at and missed, and **** at and hit.

 

[hseII]

I wonder if everyone is as damn sick as I am today?

I feel like I've been shot at and missed, and **** at and hit.

Hey Buddy, get you better.

Leave this drama **** here and take time for Randy.

 

[Mastermind]

I am.......but I'm never gonna stop calling it like I see it.

 

[KG441c]

I wonder if everyone is as damn sick as I am today?

I feel like I've been shot at and missed, and **** at and hit.

Ya I feel bad!! Lol! This is Phuck Keith day!!!

 

[hseII]

I am.......but I'm never gonna stop calling it like I see it.

It's the Intertube dude.

Calling it like you see it or not, your blood pressure and other health is worth more.

Those that count know, and those that don't, well they don't.

 

[sunfish]

I wonder if everyone is as damn sick as I am today?

I feel like I've been shot at and missed, and **** at and hit.

Same here, but yesterday was worse, & Monday worse yet.

Tired of sittin on mu ass. Want to be in the shop, or on a tractor, or runnin a chainsaw, or fishin, or...

 

[Mastermind]

Ya I feel bad!! Lol! This is Phuck Keith day!!!

Yeah........

Phuck Keith.


Who is Keith?

 

[showrguy]

I wonder if everyone is as damn sick as I am today?

I feel like I've been shot at and missed, and **** at and hit.

no !!

but, if it makes you feel any better..

i'm glad that if one of us has to be sick, it's you, and not me..
merry christmas buddy ....

 

[maulhead]

Ya I feel bad!! Lol! This is Phuck Keith day!!!

Maybe it is the pre-christmas, what is under the tree tomorrow morning crabby syndrome? Not sure!

I think I will just go back to lurking and reading rather then posting

 

[lone wolf]

I wonder if everyone is as damn sick as I am today?

I feel like I've been shot at and missed, and **** at and hit.

There is a stomach virus goin round!

 

[KG441c]

Yeah........

Phuck Keith.


Who is Keith?

EXACTLY! Why is everybody on my ass