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Buying into this is a one way ticket to nowhere. Just accept that this is between these two and you don't know even half the story.
AS is just fine - even if you don't join team Brad or team Randy.

It's ok to have your own opinion about what's going on, but this fire doesn't need more fuel.
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who said randy has pathetic builds ?
Perhaps I could have worded that better. It wasn't my intentions to suggest that Randy does pathetic work. We all know better than that. What I was trying to say was that while Randy likes to talk about how pathetic my saws are, I've had multiple people comment to me about their disappointment in Randy's work...people that would surprise you. But running down Randy's work is NOT my purpose or goal. My problem is with Randy's need to belittle me. It's malicious, it's his way of controlling the opinions of this forum, and it's WRONG!

I don't care to beat this dead horse, but I felt it my obligation to Randy to clear this up. Randy does fine work, and we all know that.
 
and all this over................................................a stupid chainsaw. they both do good work work, all the threads and videos here and elsewhere are proof of that.
 
understood, with that said you are both quit obviously very proud of your work, as you should be. sometimes in life there are people that just cannot seem to see eye to eye with each other. it is what it is.......
 
Really, it's not. It's about how you treat your fellow man.

Good point.

Randy is a good man in my book, he has always treated me very well. He even sent me a top end once free of charge. Just because you guys don't see eye to eye doesn't reflect how you treat people. Life's to short to get wrapped up in this stuff guys. Your both good peeps IMO.
 
I have pretty bad temper........and say the first thing that comes to mind.

That makes me tend to say harsh things.

I'm also an egomaniac, with an inferiority complex. :laugh:

No matter how I try.......I cannot like Brad.

Oil and water we are.

I'll avoid him as best I can.

Peace.
 
I can say this......if u have ever ran any of brads saws firsthand...u know how to they run. They are very strong. His hybrid is chainsaw nirvana....well except for the rubber mounts. That's not brads fault...lol. I just have become to liking the spring av as I get older.
 
Sup randy! I'm about due for another port job. Was thinking a new 5105 heated handle I got coming if it ever shows up...
 
Sup Andrew?

I'm gonna bow outta Brad's thread here.

I apologize to the members for posting in it in the first place.
 
I will also say this....on the same day I ran brads hybrid I ran a 461 randy did. They may be my second favorite saw j have ran. Oh ya except for the rubber av...lol here I go again on that. Both guys do great work for sure. We are all different people with different personality's. Heck my I know my brother is much less abrasive than I am...lol!!!!!!
 
Again Randy, you show your true colors. You waffle like the weather. One minute you're trying to be my friend, the next your trying to tear me down. After you blew up at me in a private message in early December, I've done my best to ignore and steer clear of you. I figured that was the safest thing to do when dealing with such an unstable individual. Then you send me messages wanting to be friendly again, only to find you repeatedly running me and my work down in the forum, even suggesting that I'm cheating my customers. How many times do we have to go down this road. Don't you get tired of it?

Let me ask you something. Are you building saws like you did a year or two ago? Nope. Furthermore, you probably won't be building them in another year or two like you are today. But, I'm wrong not to build my saws just like you? Why is it that it's either your way, or the highway? You think that the way you do it is the only way. Something else I'd really like to ask you... why do you have this driving need to run me down? Why are you so insecure? Why am I such a threat to you? I don't know if it's a learned behavior and you're very skilled at it, or if it simply comes natural to you, but you control the opinions of this forum through mind control and manipulation. You are a text book example. For those that would be interested in doing a little research, check out these links.

http://www.2knowmyself.com/Psychology_convincing_someone/Convincing_someone_to_Believe_in_anything
http://brainblogger.com/2008/11/04/hitlers-guide-to-propaganda-the-psychology-of-coercion/
http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/12/the-illusion-of-truth.php
http://brainblogger.com/2013/02/01/bullying-a-rational-choice/

Randy, you'd be surprised at the number of people that are beginning to see through you. Some of my references are your previous customers. I'm not talking one or two. The difference is that I don't feel the need to come to you, and tell you how pathetic of a saw builder you are, or how weak your saws are. Just tonight, I had a long time standing member contact me and tell me how sick they are of your antics. He's not alone Randy.

Thanks those links are fascinating reading. You've clearly put some thought into this. Thanks for your input on the MS661 also. Right now I'm running one stock, but I know where my money will get spent when it is time for modification.
 
I ordered the dual dawgs for the R model shortly after receiving this saw. They were on back order for several weeks. They came in earlier this week. While package correct, I unfortunately received two inner dawgs. I order two outer ones. I went ahead and installed the inner dawg this afternoon. I was curious to see if it extended lower to better support a long bar. I'm happy to report that it does. I find it interesting that the R model dawgs are actually smaller than the standard dawgs. I'm OK with that though. I'm most interested in better supporting a longer bar. I will wait until I have both dawgs before mounting a bar.

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I ordered the dual dawgs for the R model shortly after receiving this saw. They were on back order for several weeks. They came in earlier this week. While package correct, I unfortunately received two inner dawgs. I order two outer ones. I went ahead and installed the inner dawg this afternoon. I was curious to see if it extended lower to better support a long bar. I'm happy to report that it does. I find it interesting that the R model dawgs are actually smaller than the standard dawgs. I'm OK with that though. I'm most interested in better supporting a longer bar. I will wait until I have both dawgs before mounting a bar.

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Great depiction and side by side comparison of the 2 styles!
 
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