Chainsaw chop shop

[nyctreeman]

Sounds like his biggest offense and the one causing him the most problem is operating a business in a residential zone.

Yep ... I do the same thing, only I don't make that much money ... sad thing is, if I could get my OCD and procrastination under control, I probably could

He will probably have to do what most businesses like that do now ... take ID copy from everyone who sells him anything.

I took a pickup truck load of aluminum to the local scrapyard last year ... stuff I had removed from a demolition, mostly aluminum siding, gutters, and a few wheel rims ... and they made me show ID, they made a copy of it, filed it, and gave me a check for $400.

So I suppose if someone came in claiming their aluminum siding was stolen, I'd be the first person to have the cops show up

 

[jughead500]

They dont do aluminum like that around here but copper is a different story.they ID then hold the check for 7 days.

 

[nyctreeman]

They dont do aluminum like that around here but copper is a different story.they ID then hold the check for 7 days.

Yeah ... copper is insane here too, I see in the local paper guys getting busted for stealing it all the time.

 

[Haywire Haywood]

and a few found at a substation where they attempted to steal copper and got medium rare instead.

 

[nyctreeman]

and a few found at a substation where they attempted to steal copper and got medium rare instead.

They didn't get the copper, but they got FREE electricity

I saw the pictures of two that got fried ... it ain't pretty

 

[Haywire Haywood]

Someone actually stole a live main feed in Lexington a few years back and knocked out a whole block. If you have a vacant house for sale, you might as well cut the AC unit of the outside and sell it yourself before someone else does.

 

[Guido Salvage]

Someone actually stole a live main feed in Lexington a few years back and knocked out a whole block.

I heard they gave an arm and a leg for it...

 

[towingace]

They didn't get the copper, but they got FREE electricity

I saw the pictures of two that got fried ... it ain't pretty

Two down, 2,000,000 to go. That poison that they subject their bodies to doesn't seem to go into "self-destruct" nearly fast enough.

 

[AKDoug]

As a dealer or repair shop it is really difficult in many places to determine whether a saw is stolen or not. In Alaska I have to make a request with the local State Troopers to have them run the number. I am at their mercy if they have time to do it, and frankly I don't have time to check every saw that comes in. Stihl does have a method to flag stolen saws by the serial number, but the theft victim has to take the step of reporting the machine to their local Stihl dealer so it can get in the system.

The problem that Bryce has is that he (according to the letter nctreeman got) is operating in a manner that is probably pissing off the neighbors and the city. A simple look at Marysville's zoning map says he's in a residential zoned area. I bet there is more to this story behind them busting his shop. You can look up his shop on Google and look at the Google maps view of his place. I looked at a 2015 view and it looks like his stash has grown significantly since the 2013 Google earth view. Unfortunately, his woes are probably not over. His employment and accounting records are probably going to be next.

 

[Fubar]

gun's drawn seem's a little severe for 6 or so suspected stolen chainsaws / parts out of tons of stuff ? the pawnshops and trading posts around here have stolen crap come through all the time , the police around here act like its no big deal, they just come by and pick it up , and take a name as to who pawned or traded it if there is one , and of course the shop or person who bought it looses their money they spent on it. i have had a couple of chainsaws stolen myself , i would of had better luck using a Ojibwa board to try and find them ,than the time wasted filing a police report .

 

[nyctreeman]

As a dealer or repair shop it is really difficult in many places to determine whether a saw is stolen or not. In Alaska I have to make a request with the local State Troopers to have them run the number. I am at their mercy if they have time to do it, and frankly I don't have time to check every saw that comes in. Stihl does have a method to flag stolen saws by the serial number, but the theft victim has to take the step of reporting the machine to their local Stihl dealer so it can get in the system.

The problem that Bryce has is that he (according to the letter nctreeman got) is operating in a manner that is probably pissing off the neighbors and the city. A simple look at Marysville's zoning map says he's in a residential zoned area. I bet there is more to this story behind them busting his shop. You can look up his shop on Google and look at the Google maps view of his place. I looked at a 2015 view and it looks like his stash has grown significantly since the 2013 Google earth view. Unfortunately, his woes are probably not over. His employment and accounting records are probably going to be next.

I agree - that's why I bought a house in the sticks where you can pretty much do what you want.
The local township and county morons will go after some people, but it has to be really bad and lots of complaints.
Or ... like many small towns ...
You just need to piss off the wrong person with some connections to the local self appointed dictators.
One thing I would never do if I was in Bryce's situation ... is have people bring stuff to my place of biz or residence.
That opens you up to all kinds of possible chicanery by both crooks on the street, and crooks in the local gubbment.
I'd split the thing into two pieces if I was selling that kind of volume.
Keep the local business acquisitions and such on one side.
Keep the walk-in sellers at a completely different location and isolate that portion of it.
Every person bringing something in would be required to produce ID, and I'd keep the purchase records in case the police decide to investigate what I'm doing ... that way you've got a bullet proof paper trail of every purchase you make with a valid ID attached to each.
That's the way the local scrapyards do it.

 

[nyctreeman]

gun's drawn seem's a little severe... for 6 or so suspected stolen chainsaws

Welcome to the new normal in America where every little backwater PD has a brand new shiny armored vehicle and submachineguns courtesy of the federal gubbment ... and some really cool black uniforms too!
And they are just itchin' to try it all out.

 

[Guido Salvage]

My most recent pawn shop story...

I was in a pawn shop last Friday talking to the owner's son. I was standing with my back to the door and had on an unmarked duty jacket (I work for a police supply company and get a discount on purchases). A guy comes in with a pistol to pawn and sees me and bolts out the door. One of Joe's buddies was in the store and followed him to his car and asked him why he left. He responded that he knew I was a detective and didn't want me asking questions.

My only comment is that this business proprietor probably has more exposure from zoning, tax, accounting, business license and employment law issues than he does from those dealing with saws and parts.

 

[Vibes]

Lets throw into this mix the scumbags who sell something that they own. A month later report it stolen then file an insurance claim. My son had that happen to him. He bought a shotgun off of a guy right in front of the guys wife and 22 year old son on the guys front porch in a residential neighborhood. 2 years later when he traded the gun in on a new one at a gun shop, He gets a call from the PO PO.

Luckily he went to said buyers house with his girlfriend and another of his hunting buddies. They vouched for him and luckily the cop was a friend of the guy at the gun shop, and the gun shop owner was a good friend of mine. It still cost my son $200 that he had to pay my friend back. No charges ere filed.


I wish the would bust the scrap dealers around here. They always get caught with stolen stuff and never get in trouble. May be someone will sue one of these scumbag scrap dealers and put them out of business.

 

[Fubar]

Welcome to the new normal in America where every little backwater PD has a brand new shiny armored vehicle and submachineguns courtesy of the federal gubbment ... and some really cool black uniforms too!
And they are just itchin' to try it all out.

well i guess my little backwater PD must of missed out on the gravy train , cause all they got from the military , was two used H2's outfitted for mountain rescue , and lifesaving mountain and water rescue equipment , cause some idiot is always getting lost , falling off a cliff or trying to take a kayak down the gauntlet and over the fall's , around here .

 

[nyctreeman]

well i guess my little backwater PD must of missed out on the gravy train , cause all they got from the military , was two used H2's outfitted for mountain rescue , and lifesaving mountain and water rescue equipment , cause some idiot is always getting lost , falling off a cliff or trying to take a kayak down the gauntlet and over the fall's , around here .

Did I hit a nerve?


Fact is ... there is a growing problem in this country with local PDs becoming militarized.

I don't like it, and I don't think it's something people should allow to happen to their community, unfortunately we live in nation where ever increasing numbers of people expect big brother to protect them and are willing to cede that kind of power to the "authorities".

 

[Guido Salvage]

Did I hit a nerve?


Fact is ... there is a growing problem in this country with local PDs becoming militarized.

I don't like it, and I don't think it's something people should allow to happen to their community, unfortunately we live in nation where ever increasing numbers of people expect big brother to protect them and are willing to cede that kind of power to the "authorities".

If there were no guns this would be moot...

 

[1Alpha1]

If there were no criminals it would be moot.

 

[nyctreeman]

If there were no guns this would be moot...

None of the people in the Paris attack had any guns ... oh ... but the Islamic mutts did.
How'd that work out for the people with no guns?
A gun is no different than a chainsaw ... both tools
Every single genocide in the last 100 years began with two things ...
1 - Totalitarian government authority
2 - Confiscation of all privately owned guns

My motto is ... I'd rather die firing my AK than on my knees blindfolded.

I know that seems a bit harsh to some folks, but the world is a harsh place, and it's filled with stupid gullible people and a few really smart but vicious and ruthless people ... and the stupid gullible people never think it's going to happen to them ... until it happens.

 

[AKDoug]

My only comment is that this business proprietor probably has more exposure from zoning, tax, accounting, business license and employment law issues than he does from those dealing with saws and parts.

Yep.