Granberg File-N-Joint, Revisited

[Philbert]

Why They Might Have Moved to the Plastic File Frames/Harps!



Cast aluminum/pot metal/whatever can be brittle!

Might have to find some aluminum bar stock to drill and tap.

Philbert

 

[deerjackie]

I tried to use my newer File-N-Joint on my 1/2" chain and found out that the cutters wouldn't pass through it. I dug out the old McCulloch branded File-N-Joint that came in a kit with an old McCulloch 33 that I bought several years ago. It worked fine with the 1/2" chain. It also has a better finish and hardware. The wing nuts on the old one are easier to grip than the thumb screws on the newer one that I have. The swivel guide on the old one has a felt wick in the center of it that you oil to keep lubrication on the upper rod.
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Thats the real mccoy right there!!!!

 

[deerjackie]

looking for a bench mounted version of the vintage nygran file n joint if anyone sees one. thanks:msp_biggrin:

 

[w8ye]

I have a couple of the red deluxe Oregons that are made by Tecomec in italy. They are real nice. one looks like this except no rust.

The other one is this same model but older with the degree wheels red pot metal instead of hard black plastic. The file holder ends were pot metal and the file retainer parts were broken so it has the current new style deluxe Oregon file holders. It has a rubber pad inside against the bar but opposite the friction screw.

One works as well as the other.

A neigbor has a older Granberg before they had a built in file handle. It is made almost exactly like my Oregons except it is silver and has no file handle. The file holder parts are pot metal.

The yellow Nygren File-N-Joint looks just like the older silver Granbergs.

 

[w8ye]

Here is my newer Oregon file guide

This is my older one before I put the new style arms on it. The rust polished off the round slide bar. The two bars are just 1/4" round and 1/4" key stock from the hardware store anyway.

All the screws are metric in the Oregon/Tecomecs

 

[w8ye]

There is a yellow Nygran that is older than this - It does not have the square bar to limits the amount you file.

 

[Philbert]

I liked the metal cast ends until one cracked/snapped on me. Now I am not so sure that the plastic ones aren't good enough. Could make one better than either one out of some square, aluminum stock. Similar to what someone did in an earlier thread to hold a square file.

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

I am trying to add lost photos back into this thread. If anyone else who posted in this thread has their original photos, or something close, that they can add back in, it would be helpful and appreciated.

Thanks.

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

UPDATE: Replaced a number of missing photographs.

Some related threads:

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/granberg-chisel-bit-file-n-joint.62604/

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/filing-guides.249691/

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

Bump - due to interest in some other threads.

Philbert

 

[CTYank]

*Note: The original images in this thread were lost. I will try to add some back which are as close as possible . I cannot add photos back to other people's posts*

When I first started to sharpen my own chains I bought an Oregon, bar-mounted, filing guide (model 23736A). This was the 'professional' model; made in Italy, retailed for about $40, and had more metal parts than the model sold in home centers (model 23820) for about half that cost.

I should point out that the first two images posted, probably from retailers' sites, are backwards in multiple ways. Northern Tools' images for FNJ is also backwards- big-time backwards.
Cutting edges of chain should pass through tool first, with chain stop engaging the rear of the cutters.
File should be rotated about vertical so the tang is closer to the guide than the other tip. Filing "inside out" strongly recommended by most mfgs and "experts".
Couple seconds observation and thought, it'll be obvious, like how doing otherwise would defeat capabilities of tool.

 

[mikestewbru]

The newer Granberg file-n-joints are in my opinion are a huge disappointment, I've had two failures out of 2 attempts. the cast alum. is brittle and has been the reason for both failures, incredibly easy to break.

 

[Philbert]

The newer Granberg file-n-joints are in my opinion are a huge disappointment, I've had two failures out of 2 attempts. the cast alum. is brittle and has been the reason for both failures, incredibly easy to break.

I have had similar failures with older versions of these as well, which used some type of pot metal (see post #41, about 12 posts up). It's disappointing.

I got a couple pieces of aluminum bar stock that I may cut and bore for sturdier replacements, similar to the designs posted for square filing modifications.

When I get around to it.

Save the old ones for parts!

Philbert

 

[mikestewbru]

this was the first failure, its a design flaw with materials they use, it is straight out of the box, and broken, i called granberg and they shipped a new part but I'm starting to think that they are going to have to ship me a new part everytime i use this thing. to those looking to buy... just don't.
it does do a good job when its working but it won't stay working for long.

 

[Philbert]

Cast does not very flex very well. That is why I am looking to use a piece of extruded aluminum for replacement parts, and why I don't mind the plastic used some of the other models, even though it flexes more.

Should not fail out of the box.

Should not fail after extended use.

Philbert

 

[svk]

Was just laying in bed thinking about this last night and this post popped up today. What is the recommended sharpening system to buy nowadays?

 

[Philbert]

What is the recommended sharpening system to buy nowadays?

Whatever works for you!

Philbert

 

[noshow74]

Was just laying in bed thinking about this last night and this post popped up today. What is the recommended sharpening system to buy nowadays?

I wish I knew the answer. I suck at sharpening. Hope I get better some day lol

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[Full Chisel]

Was just laying in bed thinking about this last night and this post popped up today. What is the recommended sharpening system to buy nowadays?

Granberg File'n'Joint. I love mine, it's held up very well and I get SHARP chains using it.

 

[mikestewbru]

Granberg File'n'Joint. I love mine, it's held up very well and I get SHARP chains using it.

how old is yours EA bola?