Echo CS500P vs Stihl MS261 vs Husqvarna 550XP

[Sam_choq]

yep clean up the dirt on the carb with your finger , no probleme all the port are clean a bit of dirt in crank case , no railure to the cylinder

 

[cedarshark]

yep clean up the dirt on the carb with your finger , no probleme all the port are clean a bit of dirt in crank case , no railure to the cylinder

 

[SawTroll]

As I understand it by now, the 500P is the same saw that is called 500ES in Europe, and the factory specs are 2.14 kW/2.91 hp.

This is the lowest power specs I have ever seen on a 50cc saw made after the 1960s, and lower than the MS241, 543xp and PS-421.

There is a new 50cc model called 501SX in Europe though, where the specs are 2.57 kW/3.46 hp - much better, but still not 550xp level. Close the ol' 45cc 346xp though.

The MS261 is a misfit in the 50cc class - just too large and clumsy (as is the PS-5105).

I handled a 500ES a week ago, and handling wasn't bad at all, despite of the inboard clutch (much better than the 261 or the Dolmars) - but the quality of the plastic really put me off - it felt cheap and brittle, with sharp corners. They have a job to do there!

 

[cedarshark]

Ebay price on the two saws:
1) 550 XP - $600
2) cs500P - $420

 

[SawTroll]

Ebay price on the two saws:
1) 550 XP - $600
2) cs500P - $420

If price is all that matters, add the PS-421 to that list, as power specs are higher than the 5o0P.

The fact is that the 500P isn't comparable to many other 50cc saws, but it is to the 42/43cc saws from the major brands (Husky and Stihl) + Dolmar. It is light, and handles pretty well for a saw with an inboard clutch.

 

[Sam_choq]

Yes the 500p is under powered for a 50cc in 2015 , i try the 543xp for a week yes it turn fast but it never got the torq of the 500p . I prefer the shindaiwa 446 to the 543xp same weight , it's a ten years old saw.... and the power its more here . but i don't tell to i dislike the 543

 

[Idahonative]

If price is all that matters, add the PS-421 to that list, as power specs are higher than the 5o0P.

The fact is that the 500P isn't comparable to many other 50cc saws, but it is to the 42/43cc saws from the major brands (Husky and Stihl) + Dolmar. It is light, and handles pretty well for a saw with an inboard clutch.

At 10.6 lbs., the 500p is the lightest 50cc pro saw sold (that I'm aware of). What you say doesn't jive with what some very respectable members on AS (like Mastermind) say about power either. Randy seems to think a ported 500p will give a ported 346xp a run for it's money. Maybe you know more than him...but I'm confident that isn't true either.

 

[Sam_choq]

So here for respond to this thread , Me for my work i think the cs500p is the best saw to buy because i have walk to much because of the 550xp hahaha ....and i never walk because of the 500p i miss a piece of the piston between the 2 ring and i can finish my day like that its 5hour like that and at this place i cant change my saw because it was a flight job (helicopter) so the saw cost me nothing just because of this

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

So here for respond to this thread , Me for my work i think the cs500p is the best saw to buy because i have walk to much because of the 550xp hahaha ....and i never walk because of the 500p i miss a piece of the piston between the 2 ring and i can finish my day like that its 5hour like that and at this place i cant change my saw because it was a flight job (helicopter) so the saw cost me nothing just because of this

And I hear another thing about the cs500p: If it doesn't run, just engage the chain brake and use it as a hand saw. You won't notice the difference, and it'll use less gas!

 

[Sam_choq]

yess a good one hand saw

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

yess a good one hand saw

I can see "sorry for my english" in your sig... I suppose your first language is french, am I right?

 

[SawTroll]

Trying to explain away simple facts is what Echo fans always do - it doesn't work this time either!

There is a reason that Echo doesn't list any power specs in the US, and the reason is not hard to guess!

 

[Sam_choq]

québecois serait peu etre mieu

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

québecois serait peu etre mieu

*mieuX

Mais tu as raison, d'ailleurs le Québécois est beaucoup plus fidèle à la langue française que le français "actuel" lui même!

Trying to explain away simle facts is what Echo fans always do - it doesn't work this time either!

No, not in their special world

 

[Sam_choq]

a oui alors la tu m'en apprend une

 

[weedkilla]

No, not in their special world

I was once told that all French protests end with someone driving a tractor through McDonald's. So, just to see this come to an end, I'm going for a drive. Be back in a bit.

 

[Sam_choq]

As I understand it by now, the 500P is the same saw that is called 500ES in Europe, and the factory specs are 2.14 kW/2.91 hp.

This is the lowest power specs I have ever seen on a 50cc saw made after the 1960s, and lower than the MS241, 543xp and PS-421.

There is a new 50cc model called 501SX in Europe though, where the specs are 2.57 kW/3.46 hp - much better, but still not 550xp level. Close the ol' 45cc 346xp though.

The MS261 is a misfit in the 50cc class - just too large and clumsy (as is the PS-5105).

I handled a 500ES a week ago, and handling wasn't bad at all, despite of the inboard clutch (much better than the 261 or the Dolmars) - but the quality of the plastic really put me off - it felt cheap and brittle, with sharp corners. They have a job to do there!

Do you know the specs on hp for the 502?

 

[Sam_choq]

This summer i buy 4 old saw for 300 canadian$ 2 446 and 2 502 . The 446 was completely blocked because of the deposit in the exhaust port i never see that aproximately a 10mm hole hahaha , so the 2 cylinder was in good shape i only put new piston , now the 2 work and they got some hour on it i pass it to working partner . The 2 502 have bad piston between the 2 ring lol like i see some time but cylinder in good shape .

 

[Sam_choq]

So because of that, i can see it have a big difference between a cs500p and a shindaiwa 502 cylinder the exhaust port in the shindaiwa is much more big the transfer port and cover is more big and it's not made like the cs500p , the intake port is the same the carburator is the same every other important thing . Because of that the shindaiwa is realy more easy to tune you don't have to wait to she become hot for it .....and the performance is realy not the same . I clean up a cylinder tonight it will surely go on the echo for she can see what she was supose to be

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

At 10.6 lbs., the 500p is the lightest 50cc pro saw sold (that I'm aware of). What you say doesn't jive with what some very respectable members on AS (like Mastermind) say about power either. Randy seems to think a ported 500p will give a ported 346xp a run for it's money. Maybe you know more than him...but I'm confident that isn't true either.

I tried them , hes wrong..a well ported 346 is measurably stronger than a 500p..i dont care either way..it just is what it is.

I do like the weight of the echo though..seems like a decent saw...felt about the size of a ms 241 with my d*ck beaters on it.