SawTroll
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That's because Carlton doesn't have a low-vibe chassis, that was invented by Oregon and later adopted by Stihl.
This is quite odd, as Carlton has the same owner as Oregon, and they do sometimes cooperate....
New Oregon Narrow Kerf Chain and SpeedCut Guide Bars
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That's because Carlton doesn't have a low-vibe chassis, that was invented by Oregon and later adopted by Stihl.
This is quite odd, as Carlton has the same owner as Oregon, and they do sometimes cooperate....
I went back and re read a bunch of stuff in this thread.
Replacing the entire pro lite with this technology, they changed naming lately so complicating stuff I suppose this means SL and GL in standard and MP in narrow kerf. The lower grade dual guard, pro am, microlite without the pro (ML) will stay the same at least for now? Does what I read mean they are offering NK bars in more than 10 tooth noses? From the look of the picture in post 35 that 20% could be for a large, 12 I guess tooth nose with 0.063 middle lamine couldn't it? That is for speed cut, versa cut, and control cut. I see nothing about improvement in plunge cutting.
Replacing the entire pro lite with this technology, they changed naming lately so complicating stuff I suppose this means SL and GL in standard and MP in narrow kerf. The lower grade dual guard, pro am, microlite without the pro (ML) will stay the same at least for now? Does what I read mean they are offering NK bars in more than 10 tooth noses? From the look of the picture in post 35 that 20% could be for a large, 12 I guess tooth nose with 0.063 middle lamine couldn't it? That is for speed cut, versa cut, and control cut. I see nothing about improvement in plunge cutting.
That Oregon Type 90 chain is surprisingly aggressive if sharpened with the 4.5mm / 11/64" file. I have it on their 40V pole saw and it works really well.
Philbert
Yea I would think the old grind the adjuster opening till it breaks through the underside of the bar groove would work to use the K095 mount on the Echo. My point of contention is why the K041 style mount is not listed for the new NK bars? Tons and tons of saws use that mount.
Another thing is what is the point of the new K216 bar mount? Basically a K041 with a oil hole...
If you want to go there, a 20" bar on most 50cc saws is not a great idea. If you are going to use a 20" bar on a 50cc saw, I think the NK setup is a good idea.
SawTroll
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I don't see the point with the K216 mount either, unless it just is to sell more OEM branded bars, by being different.
What kills my interest in the NK bars mainly is the lack of a good chisel option. If that isn't an issue to the user, I agree that NK is a good idea.
I was thinking the same thing on the 216 bar mount, being a way to sell more OEM bars but Oregon sure does have plenty of that mount in there catalog, just not in the NK style.
I know your opinion on needing a full chisel cutter in NK and I agree the choice would be nice but then again it depends what your cutting. I in the past used the 95VP chain on a bunch of firewood cutting and what I was cutting I would not have wanted a full chisel cutter as we were cutting out of brush piles etc so not the cleanest wood.
To be honest, the 95VP on my Husky 350 I was using at the time seemed as fast even in clean wood as the 20Lp so I don't feel at a loss not having a full chisel option in the NK chains.
Niko,
Maybe you are the perfect person to test these new chains, once they become available over your way.
Philbert
SawTroll
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I may well try it, when I am back to cutting, as I use NK on the 339xp.
If I was going to run 20" on 50cc under saws. stihl PS PS3 3/8LP picco is the ticket or for you semi chisel fans just pick any other chain in 3/8LP.
echo 4500 45cc 3/8 7T with 20" picco
echo 4500 45cc 3/8 7T with 20" picco
Quick question on this. Does the same sprocket work with standard 3/8 and 3/8 low profile for these saws or is there a different one for low profile?
Info page says that they 'fit .325”-pitch, standard 3/8”-pitch, and .404”-pitch chains'. Do not mention 3/8 low profile. Their spur sprockets specifically mention 3/8 low profile.
http://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/sprockets/sprockets_powermate_system.htm
http://www.oregonproducts.com/pdf/sprockets/RimSproxFB0601.pdf
Philbert
SawTroll
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They are different, as the lo-pro/picco needs a larger rim to compensate for the low profile chain chassis. The bar sprockets are different as well.
Oregon doesn't offer lo-pro rims, that's why they don't show up in the link.
Rusty Barlow
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I hope these are available soon. The nose on our Husky 55's bar assploded yesterday. I found an old bar to get by on, but the speedcut bar looks promising.
On the Oregon website:
https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/95TXL.htm
95TXL Chain
Work faster, sharper, easier, with a more efficient chain. Ideal for arborists and property owners who want top performance. 95TXL is for saws up to 55 cc. (Replaces 95VPX.) SpeedCut™ 95TXL narrow kerf cutting systems are more efficient, needing less power from the saw than standard cutting systems. Low-vibration, Micro Chisel cutters have small-radius working corners for excellent performance and easy maintenance. Get a faster, easier cut with a reshaped cutting surface. A sharper, more durable cutting edge from a new precision grind and optimized cutting angle. Always use SpeedCut narrow kerf chain in combination with SpeedCut or Micro-Lite bars.
.325" pitch, .050" gauge
95TXL chain is intended for use with gasoline-powered saws up to 55 cc with bars up to 20" (50cm).
Philbert
https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/95TXL.htm
95TXL Chain
Work faster, sharper, easier, with a more efficient chain. Ideal for arborists and property owners who want top performance. 95TXL is for saws up to 55 cc. (Replaces 95VPX.) SpeedCut™ 95TXL narrow kerf cutting systems are more efficient, needing less power from the saw than standard cutting systems. Low-vibration, Micro Chisel cutters have small-radius working corners for excellent performance and easy maintenance. Get a faster, easier cut with a reshaped cutting surface. A sharper, more durable cutting edge from a new precision grind and optimized cutting angle. Always use SpeedCut narrow kerf chain in combination with SpeedCut or Micro-Lite bars.
Philbert
Curious if this new cutter will migrate into other Oregon chains like 3/8 LP?
Still waiting to see these 'in the flesh', so to speak. Here is another Oregon promotional video shared by @LegDeLimber:
Philbert
Philbert
Huh!
It took the dude 2 minutes to make that one cut in the clip... , must be the saws fault...
Oregon told me too contact my norwegian oregon dealer, I did he is going to send me the oregon speed cut bar and chain as soon as he get them for free so i can try them out, very nice. He expected to have the chain and bar in the summer of -16
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