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idiotwithasaw said:
Carl what kind of tach is this, and where can I get one. I've been wanting to get a decent tach for a while. My cheapie works, but be nice to have one I trust 100%
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Thats an oppama, but I have 3 of them. Also have an edt 7 stihl, and and a dti-20k.
All good tachs, I prefer for bench setting and speed reading the corded tachs as they respond better and are more stable.
 
So what's so difference between the 500 and the 600/620? I've heard that those respond very well with porting. Are the cylinder's the same design with these model's?
 
This place is a joke,I'll see you on the good forum carl.

It's impossible to learn if you already know everything and this place has far to many know it all's.

The biggest majority of the people on here have no idea what a strong saw is or how to build one. Think about it when you need some timing numbers for the hunk of **** your building and there's no one to help you.
 
jmssaws said:
This place is a joke,I'll see you on the good forum carl.

It's impossible to learn if you already know everything and this place has far to many know it all's.

The biggest majority of the people on here have no idea what a strong saw is or how to build one. Think about it when you need some timing numbers for the hunk of **** your building and there's no one to help you.
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My 562xp is strong compared to the 500 but thats where my basis for comparison ends.
 
jmssaws said:
This place is a joke,I'll see you on the good forum carl.

It's impossible to learn if you already know everything and this place has far to many know it all's.

The biggest majority of the people on here have no idea what a strong saw is or how to build one. Think about it when you need some timing numbers for the hunk of **** your building and there's no one to help you.
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Oh no, don't hide the good timing numbers! Such drama! Is this what it's always like over at Ovaries, Pussies and Estrogen?

What's pathetic is that no one was rude, disrespectful, unpleasant, or unkind to Carl in this entire thread. Rather he was complemented on doing some interesting mods and making a capable saw out of something with conaiderable limitations. But when I refuted (simply and without any personal attack) his over exuberant claims of 11,800rpm under load in that video, well then did we have tears and stamping of feet. Then the muscle showed up to ridicule and intimidate and try to parse sentances looking for a gotcha (as if I cared), and I was the big meannie.

Yet if Brad had posted a vid claiming 11.8k under load and I showed it didn't get over 10k I'd have been everyone's friggin' hero and the whining and crying would have been epec.

Here's the reality: every experienced porter over here crying that watches/listens to that video knows damn well it's not turning 11.8k in those cuts.
 
Toad22t said:
It almost seems like there is a reoccurring problem around here! I just can't put my finger on it though.
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Chris-PA said:
Oh no, don't hide the good timing numbers! Such drama! Is this what it's always like over at Ovaries, Pussies and Estrogen?

What's pathetic is that no one was rude, disrespectful, unpleasant, or unkind to Carl in this entire thread. Rather he was complemented on doing some interesting mods and making a capable saw out of something with conaiderable limitations. But when I refuted (simply and without any personal attack) his over exuberant claims of 11,800rpm under load in that video, well then did we have tears and stamping of feet. Then the muscle showed up to ridicule and intimidate and try to parse sentances looking for a gotcha (as if I cared), and I was the big meannie.

Yet if Brad had posted a vid claiming 11.8k under load and I showed it didn't get over 10k I'd have been everyone's friggin' hero and the whining and crying would have been epec.

Here's the reality: every experienced porter over here crying that watches/listens to that video knows damn well it's not turning 11.8k in those cuts.
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Yup I found it! It's amazing that some people did a little vacation for talking bad or down to people and others are just able to keep on doing it!

My love of chainsaws came from this site! I came here to find info on the one saw I had when I joined this site. Now look what it has become!

You can't say "oh here is another guy bashing on Brad or another builder! I have never bashed on Brad or hardly anyone that has been on here. But I tell you what I have never called anyone out and practically called them a lier unless I had solid facts! You never had solid facts except some messed up computer program and probally a video made off of a cell phone. But here you come all high and almighty trying to point out facts that you have no clue on. Hell I'll admit I have no clue on them either. But I'm not here being some jack wagon to the people that are trying to help. He was doing this thread per request from other members and to maybe show other members there is other saws besides husqvarna or stihl. Way to **** that up dumbass! Oh and by the way "I have a potty mouth"!
 
Chris-PA said:
Oh no, don't hide the good timing numbers! Such drama! Is this what it's always like over at Ovaries, Pussies and Estrogen?

What's pathetic is that no one was rude, disrespectful, unpleasant, or unkind to Carl in this entire thread. Rather he was complemented on doing some interesting mods and making a capable saw out of something with conaiderable limitations. But when I refuted (simply and without any personal attack) his over exuberant claims of 11,800rpm under load in that video, well then did we have tears and stamping of feet. Then the muscle showed up to ridicule and intimidate and try to parse sentances looking for a gotcha (as if I cared), and I was the big meannie.

Yet if Brad had posted a vid claiming 11.8k under load and I showed it didn't get over 10k I'd have been everyone's friggin' hero and the whining and crying would have been epec.

Here's the reality: every experienced porter over here crying that watches/listens to that video knows damn well it's not turning 11.8k in those cuts.
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So how come the real experts didn't chime in. Oh one did and called BS.
Really don't think so every saw has it's own sound different muffler mod will make it sound different. Besides that Carl was cutting in solid wood.
 



Can I try to play moderator here without the masses coming down on me? Put the emotions aside and you'll see this for what it is.

Chris did not say that this saw cannot or won't turn over 11K in the cut, he simple said it wasn't in that first video. A second video was posted demonstrating that it will. Play the two videos at the same time. Tell me what you hear. It's clear that the saw is turning way more RPMs in the second video.

RPMs in the cut is highly subjective to the load put on the saw, whether it be from down force applied by the operator, or by cutting bigger wood. This here is simply a demonstration of that.

If we can put our emotions aside, the facts are obvious. This saw is clearly capable of turning over 11K with a light load in small wood. This is why I demonstrate a saw across it's powerband, showing it with light, medium, and heavy loads.

Several of you guys are simply here for the fight. You're doing nothing to contribute to this thread, to AS, or to Miller Mod Saws. You are not doing him a service by antagonizing the situation. Step back and let it go.
 
Toad22t said:
You can't say "oh here is another guy bashing on Brad or another builder! I have never bashed on Brad or hardly anyone that has been on here.
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What are you jabbering about? When did I ever say anything about you? I've never even heard of you.
 
I'm not antagonizing ****! I'm here to see the thread! I'm calling out his ********. This isn't the first thread he has did this.

I have never had a problem with you Brad and still don't! You have answered questions of mine in threads that some just have passed by and I thank you for that. But its always "us" guys! I'm not saying I'm one of those guys but I take offense to the terms those guys, Riff Raff or antagonizers. Those guys have also helped me! I have seen the same **** go on in your threads and you would be just as offended as Carl was.

So now here I am doing what I have tried to stay away from since the time I have joined this site. I miss the days if watching yours, Randy's, Stumpy's and other builders threads and everyone helping each other out. No I'm not blaming you or anyone else for the end but it is the end for alot of us "not so newbies" being around here and dealing with it. There is greener pastures I have found.
 

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