MS362 captive bar cover studs on MS441 and oem dual felling spikes

[HarleyT]

From the dealer's point of view, ordering parts for customers can be tricky, and sometimes very time consuming.
It was not uncommon for the parts guys and the bosses and owner to come back in the shop and drag me up front
to deal with someone throwing curve balls, which never helped my labor $ numbers as a mechanic.
But from a parts guy's point of view, he will get grief from the bosses if he has ordered a lot of parts that no one buys,
and if he has a long line of customers waiting, and he is dealing with someone with an oddball project.
Fitting parts from one model onto another certainly applies.
And also, many times the customer comes in, supplies the part number, and if it doesn't work for what he wants,
he still tends to blame the parts guy, it helps when he tries to get his money back.....

 

[Firemoore98]

I completely u der stand the stress of running a profitable shop and I know the money is not in a guy ordering $47 worth of parts that took 45 minutes to ring up. That's why I always try to show up to the dealer organized with part numbers in hand. That way I'm not taking up more of their time than necessary.

Jason


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[HarleyT]

Yeah, you are well prepared compared to most. Most come in wanting to order a part, but cannot even tell you what model number the saw is.

Or they want a chain for a 16" bar, but cannot tell you what pitch, etc..
Then will try and buy one off the shelf, try to run it, then bring back the damaged chain, this time with the saw,
"muttering "Well, You sold it to me....."

 

[longbowch]

I would stick with the 24/25" bar on a 441 if it were me...skip chain on a 28" setup.

That saw has no problem with a 28 full comp, but I like semi-chisel better.

 

[Wood Doctor]

How did he get the original part numbers?

Apparently the cross-reference is rather vague, even for dealers to figure out. You have to match the tip up with the bar number and then make sure the pitch is correct. Then there is wide tip vs. narrow tip that adds more complexity to ascertain the order. No original bar tip has a stamped on part number. Looks like Stihl would rather sell you a $120 bar than a $25 tip that you can use to repair it. In my case, this was a 41" bar that was still in good shape except that the operator wrecked the tip and the sprocket bearing was frozen.

 

[Firemoore98]

And the 441.



The part number for the longer bar stud is 0000 664 2405. The ms362 and the ms441 share the same regular length stud, #1138 664 2400.

Ordered these studs and they are wrong. The part that threads into the saw is too large.

My dealer isn't much help and I'm gonna have to eat the cost of these bar studs.

Anyone know the bar stud I need for my ms441c to convert her over to the captive bar stud cover?

The chewed up threads one is the old one. The brand new larger thread one is the new one I purchased that's too large to thread in my saw.

Thanks

Jason


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[Firemoore98]

My brand new saw is out of service till I get the correct part number. [emoji53]


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[hseII]

Ordered these studs and they are wrong. The part that threads into the saw is too large.

My dealer isn't much help and I'm gonna have to eat the cost of these bar studs.

Anyone know the bar stud I need for my ms441c to convert her over to the captive bar stud cover?

The chewed up threads one is the old one. The brand new larger thread one is the new one I purchased that's too large to thread in my saw.

Thanks

Jason


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Will the studs from a MS362 not work?

The ones that go with the cover?

Wouldn't they be the same diameter?

 

[Firemoore98]

The part that threads into the case is too large on the new studs that I purchased. The part that sticks out of the case and the bar cover threads on two is the correct thread size


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[CR888]

Its a little tricky doing this mod, I wanted to put captive nuts on my 660 and use a ms261 clutch cover with captive nuts but the 660 studs won't allow it to grip the bar properly. It could be done I believe if I'd changed out the 660 bar studs.

 

[Firemoore98]

I'm pretty sure his is what I had on my saw.

I need the longer m8 studs to fit the captive bar but cover I purchased.

Please help. My new saw is hungry and wants to eat wood.

Thanks

Jason


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[HarleyT]

The studs you got must be only for that ms362 crankcase half in the ipl.
You will likely need to experiment with other models and/or brands.
Like this one off of a ms200t..

 

[HarleyT]

Or an Echo....

 

[Khntr85]

Damn man I wish I could help ya.... I know you want to get that thing dirty!!!

 

[Firemoore98]

These off of eBay looked about right. But I really want to avoid experimenting. I already ruined the oem bar studs removing them and purchased a set that didn't work that my dealer won't take back.

Anyone have any experience with a swap like this?

Jason


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[blsnelling]

Wouldn't MS362C bar studs work?

 

[Firemoore98]

And the 441.



The part number for the longer bar stud is 0000 664 2405. The ms362 and the ms441 share the same regular length stud, #1138 664 2400.

I'm not sure what will work, all I know is stock bar studs are too long and the above part number is what I bought and it's wrong, the diameter is too large to thread into my case.

My dealer is of no real hope and won't take back the unused bar studs.

Jason


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[blsnelling]

I can see no reason the 362 wouldn't work. That's what I'd go with.

 

[Firemoore98]

Do you have the part number for the 362?

Again my dealer won't help me.


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[HarleyT]

Excellent do you have the corresponding part numbers page? For instance I want part 17 but what's the part number?

Thanks


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Here is the parts number page for the ms362 ipl I put up the other day.